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spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 12:44 AM

Please Read!!! Car won't start. gotta be at work at 7am
 
Okay I'm pretty sure it's my lock cylinder. I went outside, sat in the car, and tried to start it like normal. None of the gauges came on and the starter wouldn't engage. Battery is fine, all fuses are fine. You know how when you stick the key in the car makes a quick dinging sound and when you turn it to accessory the dinging slows to a more drawn out ding? Well it doesn't do that. When I turn the key to accessory the radio stays off, the blower motor doesn't work, the gauges don't illuminate, and the fast paced dinging continues. This sound like the lock cylinder to you? If not then what? If so then when I buy a new lock cylinder how do I configure it for my particular passkey setting?

5_02ls1 Feb 19, 2009 12:48 AM

body control module.....if you can turn the key i doubt its the cylinder......i bet the bcm took a crap....good luck......i bet the windows dont work iether....

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 01:02 AM

Well you have to turn the key to accessory for the windows to move anyway. Well the key turns, yes. But it seems like it doesn't want to go into accessory mode when I turn it

ByeByeRiceBoy317 Feb 19, 2009 01:11 AM

does kinda sound like a body control module... security light on?

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 01:17 AM

No no lights on the dash are on. Completely black. Could water have caused this? Because I drove through a HUGE puddle (about 1ft deep) about 2 minutes before this happened?

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 01:25 AM

Actually now that I think about, if the bcm fried, wouldn't my locks stop working? I definitely used my keyless entry remote to lock my doors and it armed the alarm. I remember doing this because my car is in the parking lot at some bar down the street from my house.

ByeByeRiceBoy317 Feb 19, 2009 01:50 AM

hmmm... yeah your locks would probably not work... you think disconnecting the battery and letting the cpu reset would help?

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 02:10 AM

I did disconnect it. At first I thought it was a loose terminal because I lent a buddy my battery yesterday so I thought I just didn't tighten it back up good. Is there any way this could be the lock cylinder?

ByeByeRiceBoy317 Feb 19, 2009 02:13 AM

i guess it could be... does it feel funny when you turn it at all?

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 02:15 AM

Not really. It just feels like normal. I do have a vertical wobble to my column and my vats shorted out once like 2 years ago if that's of any use

ByeByeRiceBoy317 Feb 19, 2009 02:19 AM

hmm... im sorry i dont know what to tell you. the only thing ive seen like that was in an impala that needed a new pass-key system then they had to reprogram the ignition.

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 02:45 AM

hmm...well this is no good at all. Oh well time for a new car. I'll just scrape up my pocket change and go snatch up an evo lol. If only...if only

ByeByeRiceBoy317 Feb 19, 2009 02:48 AM

haha that would require a very large pocket!

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 02:56 AM

Yeah but as much money I've dumped into this damned Formula trying to get it right, I might as well. I'm wanting to get rid of this thing and get a low mile T/A

jam01 Feb 19, 2009 07:02 AM

if your not getting power anywhere, have you checked your battery for enough volts. if it is your bcm could still be just a little damp

spiritshotgun235 Feb 19, 2009 07:41 AM

Well as of yet, I haven't been to sleep all night, I'm missing work, and my car still won't start lol. The battery is fine though. The car just won't go to accessory mode, much less turn over. It doesn't click nor do the interior lights dim when I try to start it.

99monguse Feb 19, 2009 03:37 PM

My SS did something similar and it was the vats wires from the lock cylinder. The wires were broken and the entire cylinder had to be replaced.

99monguse Feb 19, 2009 03:42 PM

I originally thought maybe the battery took a shit. I went to a local parts store to buy wax, came out and got in the car and the car wouldn't start. The car wouldn't do anything. I went back in the store and bought a brand new DELCO battery and put it in right there in the parking lot and still nothing; so then I thought it was the clutch switch, Im swapped it from my WS6 and still nothing. Ended up having it towed home.I had a locksmith that does on-location repairs come to my home and he brought a small by-pass box that by-passed the VATS system and BAMM! the car started right up. He said its fairly common that one or sometimes both of the wires break and they can't be repaired; you have to replace the entire cylinder and he gave me two brand new ignition keys too.

novass72 Feb 20, 2009 12:09 AM

yeah the repeated action of tilting the steering wheel up and down over the years works those wires pretty hard. I'd say new lock cylinder, but not sure cause your security light isn't on. Hopefully you can get it worked out before missing any more work.

spiritshotgun235 Feb 20, 2009 02:49 AM

Well my security light does come on every once in a while and just stays on for about 10 minutes at a time


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