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Old 06-04-2009, 07:17 PM
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I bought an Evans pump on ebay and I cannot tell whether it has a small pulley or a large pulley..... I think it has the large... I am using this in a stock application and from what I have read, it is not going to work... Is that correct?
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Can you measure the OD of the pulley?
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How accurate do I have to be lol... All my tools are in the car and its raining like a bi***.... I used a ghetto way of measuring and I came up with about 15.5 inches...
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The large pulley is 5.25" and the small is 4.25". According to Evans, the application and engine damper diameter determine the WP pulley size. You need to calculate WP pulley drive ratio and compare it to their chart.

Here is what Evans states about pulley size:

Evans Small pulley (E3910) is designed to work with the OEM crank pulley. This Pulley design maximizes cooling capacity by increasing coolant flow on factory applications more effectively then stock pulley combinations. Evans Large pulley (E3915) increases performance when using an under-drive crank pulley. Evans Small and Large pulleys are 8-rib compatible. Optimal Pump RPM range is 2500 - 6500. Pump flow (gpm) is maximized at 5500 pump RPM. For sustained high RPM applications our suggested combination is Evans Large Pulley and a 25% under-drive crank pulley. The pulleys are available as billet aluminum or anodized hard coat. Refer to LS1 Pump RPM vs. engine RPM to compare pulley drive ratios.
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I figured out that it is the large pulley.... I am not sure I understand their description. I will call their techs and have a convo. Will report back here...

I dont see what the larger pulley will hurt in a stock situation.. As it looks like the pulley on a OE pump is about the same size as the large one.
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Aparently there is one guy who knows about the LS1 pumps there and he is gone.... Anyone else know anything about these evans pumps?
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What size crank damper do you have? Is it a street car?
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My car is 100% stock. It is just time to replace my water pump and I found the evans for like 150 bucks Killer deal.. Couldnt pass it up.
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Here is a pic of the large pulley.

I think yours is the small one.



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Originally Posted by dancrosoft
My car is 100% stock. It is just time to replace my water pump and I found the evans for like 150 bucks Killer deal.. Couldnt pass it up.
The stock pulley ratio is 1.285. Installing the small WP pulley with the stock 7.52" engine damper changes the pulley ratio to 1.769. The max recommended pump RPM is 6500. With a pulley ratio of 1.769 the pump reaches 6500 RPM at 3673 engine RPM.

The $150 pump will cause overheating while having a very short lifespan. You need the large pulley.

All information based on Evans recommendations.

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http://www.evanscooling.com/download/LS1LS6.pdf

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This doc says that the small pulley should be used for stock applications....
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Originally Posted by dancrosoft
http://www.evanscooling.com/download/LS1LS6.pdf

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This doc says that the small pulley should be used for stock applications....
It says you can run the small pulley AND a 10% underdrive crank pulley on a street and performance application. It also states the stock diameter crank pulley and the small WP pulley can be used for a street only application with a maximum of 5000 engine RPM's. A pulley ratio of 1.769 is way too far over driven and will limit maximum engine RPM even further. The combination your using isn't even on the chart. Did you read the fine print to the right of the pulley ratio graph?

The Pump versus Engine RPM chart gives a suggested pump RPM box. Too low a pump RPM will result in higher operating temperature and eventual over heating. Too high a pump RPM results in power loss from parasitic drag creating pump cavitation and eventual over heating or pump failure.

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I will apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. I am by far no expert on anything cars. I am just a guy who tries to save money by doing any work on my car that I can.

I thank you very much for the advice you have given so far as well.

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I have installed the pump today because the old one was about dead..... Please note that my car is in a stock application and is only drive to/from work and just to do normal stuff. It is not in any kind of race application.

Hopefully the small pulley will work in this application. I still dont fully understand all of the stuff I have read but i had to have a pump so its installed ....

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And again I will apologize for my ignorance - Do I need the Small or Large Pulley for a STOCK application as a daily driver to/from work no more no less - no racing - never above 5000 RPM on the engine. Rarely above 4000...?
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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
It says you can run the small pulley AND a 10% underdrive crank pulley on a street and performance application. It also states the stock diameter crank pulley and the small WP pulley can be used for a street only application with a maximum of 5000 engine RPM's. A pulley ratio of 1.769 is way too far over driven and will limit maximum engine RPM even further. The combination your using isn't even on the chart. Did you read the fine print to the right of the pulley ratio graph?
^^It also states the stock diameter crank pulley and the small WP pulley can be used for a street only application with a maximum of 5000 engine RPM's < This is my situation.
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Originally Posted by dancrosoft
^^It also states the stock diameter crank pulley and the small WP pulley can be used for a street only application with a maximum of 5000 engine RPM's < This is my situation.
That's exactly what I wrote above. Good luck.
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I am pleased to report that the pump is installed and it is working great . I has my laptop hooked up on the way to work this morning and the coolant temp was sitting around 180 - 185 on the interstate.

Next = manual fan switch.




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