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FBGSU02 Nov 18, 2009 05:07 PM

100 MAF's comparsion
 
I was thinking about swapping from my 85mm SLP MAF and SLP lid to 100mm MAF and fast toys 104mm LID. i have terminator heads,MS3,ported fast 92/92,42lb inj.,corresponding bolt-ons.
1. Should i sell my stuff and go larger?
2. what is better the TSP or Lingenfelter 100mm MAF?
thanks for any imput

scatillac Nov 18, 2009 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by FBGSU02 (Post 12517627)
2. what is better the TSP or Lingenfelter 100mm MAF?

Here's another LS7 MAF/housing option.......

www.not-a-sponsor.com/

FBGSU02 Nov 18, 2009 05:59 PM

thanks thats awsome so now out of the three?

2000_SS Nov 18, 2009 07:41 PM

i'd go with TSP's. i had one, but sold it to go with a SD tune. Even now, i'm considering buying another and staying with a MAF tune, but i dunno.

I'm not 100% certain, but i think just about all the 100mm MAF's out there use a LS3 style MAF in a machined housing, hence the adapter cables that come with them because the MAF and IAT are in the same sensor.

You could definately see some gains with that lid and MAF combo.

Ryne @ CMS Nov 18, 2009 07:47 PM

i have nothing but grief with the lingenfelter maf, but great success with the ls7 style maf

JeaneZ28 Nov 18, 2009 07:52 PM

I would just go with cheapest you can find because there all going to work the same.

Here's the PowrMaf for $225.

http://www.tick-performance.com/cata...ody/induction/

FBGSU02 Nov 18, 2009 09:16 PM

that sounds like a winner, so do i need to get my car dyno tuned again or if i sent if off to my tuner he could adjust?

teke184 Nov 19, 2009 07:17 AM

my guess would be you'll need a whole new tune.

some of those maf's really require new tables (v/e).


i've thrown around doing a 100mm lid/100mm maf upgrade, and do before/after dyno runs (much like my FAST). just to see what it would be worth on a cam only setup.

GregRexAdams Nov 20, 2009 12:55 AM

You'll have to have a tune, but not the entire thing if you've already been tuned, just the MAF tables.

00T/AWS6 Nov 20, 2009 07:30 PM

yeah i was wondering this same thing as i'm going for a cam only setup as well. just curious if i should upgrade the lid and maf if i end up going with a 92/92. definitly subscribed for results if you do it.

1999 SS Nov 21, 2009 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by 2000_SS (Post 12518290)
i'd go with TSP's. i had one, but sold it to go with a SD tune. Even now, i'm considering buying another and staying with a MAF tune, but i dunno.

I'm not 100% certain, but i think just about all the 100mm MAF's out there use a LS3 style MAF in a machined housing, hence the adapter cables that come with them because the MAF and IAT are in the same sensor.

You could definately see some gains with that lid and MAF combo.



why are you considering going back to a MAF setup once you switched to SD? the reason im asking is because im considering switching to SD.

2000_SS Nov 21, 2009 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by 1999 SS (Post 12528792)
why are you considering going back to a MAF setup once you switched to SD? the reason im asking is because im considering switching to SD.

i haven't actually done it yet. I sold all my old parts for the new build, then sold my TSP 100mm MAF in favor of other parts, thinking that i would go the SD route. Now, the build is almost finished and i'm contemplating whether or not to pick up another MAF. the SD vs. MAF argument never seems to get anywhere. half the people say MAF is best and the other half say SD is superior. I don't see how SD could be any better if the MAF isn't a choke in your intake tract. i'll have a 104mm lid, 100mm MAF, and a 92mm TB...what difference would it make either way, right?

69LT1Bird Nov 22, 2009 07:52 AM

Get one of these from a dealer:
19166574 -Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF) Mounting Bracket

The go get this from a dealer of just go to a salvage yard and save a ton:
15865791 - GM Replacement Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF) 2006-2007 Chevy Corvette LS7, 2005-2007 Chevy Cobalt, 2006-2008 Pontiac Solstice

Dom Nov 22, 2009 09:45 PM

http://fasttoys.net/shop/images/fasttoys104_pic3.jpg


This is a 100mm MAF. So will that powermax 103.5mm fit FastToys 104mm lid? Just from the looks of it looks like the 104mm lid is a perfect fit for something like a 100mm TSP MAF. Also what goes between the 100mm MAF and 92mm TB to make them mate? What is everyone using?

JeaneZ28 Nov 22, 2009 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dom (Post 12532492)
This is a 100mm MAF. So will that powermax 103.5mm fit FastToys 104mm lid? Just from the looks of it looks like the 104mm lid is a perfect fit for something like a 100mm TSP MAF. Also what goes between the 100mm MAF and 92mm TB to make them mate? What is everyone using?

Well the PowrMaf wont slide in since the LID ID is 104 mm and the MAF OD is 106 mm. If you buy it from PowrMaf it comes with 2 silicone adapters and the TSP MAF comes with 1 adapter. So one adapter between the Lid and MAF then the other adapter between MAF and TB. The only real difference in price from the TSP MAF is the shipping cost unless you live here in Texas then there will be tax also.

Dom Nov 23, 2009 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by JeaneZ28 (Post 12532764)
Well the PowrMaf wont slide in since the LID ID is 104 mm and the MAF OD is 106 mm. If you buy it from PowrMaf it comes with 2 silicone adapters and the TSP MAF comes with 1 adapter. So one adapter between the Lid and MAF then the other adapter between MAF and TB. The only real difference in price from the TSP MAF is the shipping cost unless you live here in Texas then there will be tax also.

Are those flexible or only fit a certain size TB?

JeaneZ28 Nov 23, 2009 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Dom (Post 12532941)
Are those flexible or only fit a certain size TB?

Adapters? Yes. If you look at the slideshow on page 5 it shows the adapters.

www.not-a-sponsor.com/

RobZ Nov 23, 2009 01:08 AM

What are the benefits of a bigger maf?I would also like to know who benefits from a bigger maf.

Dom Nov 23, 2009 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by RobZ (Post 12533029)
What are the benefits of a bigger maf?I would also like to know who benefits from a bigger maf.

By itself probably not much. I'm wanting one for when I get a 92/92. For the same reason I'll upgrade the catback when I get headers. I want to keep the piping all the same. No reason to keep one piece of pipe smaller then the rest. What's the point of a 92mm TB if it is getting air through a 75mm MAF or even upgraded 85mm MAF? Anything less then 92mm doesn't make sense to me.

silverz28camaro Nov 23, 2009 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by Dom (Post 12533063)
By itself probably not much. I'm wanting one for when I get a 92/92. For the same reason I'll upgrade the catback when I get headers. I want to keep the piping all the same. No reason to keep one piece of pipe smaller then the rest. What's the point of a 92mm TB if it is getting air through a 75mm MAF or even upgraded 85mm MAF? Anything less then 92mm doesn't make sense to me.

Agree Even if you port your stock tb it becomes bigger then the stock maf. even a 85 mm maf will help with the stock tb. Now when you get a 92mm tb as in the fast, anything smaller then that is a restriction before the tb. It may not be much if you already have a 85mm maf/fast toys lid, but is there is a few pony's to be had, then why not do it?


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