Intake and throttle body opinions
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Stay away from Jantzer TB's would be my suggestion. We offer a Wilson 95mm that would be better.
All Jantzer did was take and copy an inexpensive unit and did not even copy it correctly. Nothing but idle issues resulted from an improperly machined IAC port as well as sticking blades due to material selection and machining. It was a poor copy by somoene who is not an engineer and did no testing, all he did was steal someone elses design and then produced a poorly working version of it.
All Jantzer did was take and copy an inexpensive unit and did not even copy it correctly. Nothing but idle issues resulted from an improperly machined IAC port as well as sticking blades due to material selection and machining. It was a poor copy by somoene who is not an engineer and did no testing, all he did was steal someone elses design and then produced a poorly working version of it.
The first version had some issues that were immediately fixed.
Chris, why don't you let the world know how much money you stiffed Jantzer Performance for. How many throttle bodies did you sell and not pay Jantzer for? You're dishonest as the day is long.
#23
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^^Speaking of Jantzer the banned one himself.
I don't lie Scott, your record speaks for itself from the multiple bannings on here to the ripped off PTM design to the failed attempt to copy that design properly that led to many many hours of customer paid for tuning time trying to resolve an issue that would not/could not be fixed due to defective Jantzer stolen/copied PTM throttle bodies.
You have no credibility Scott I gave you a chance and when you tried to rip me off I closed the door and chapter on you. Now your back under what your 9th different name on here? Thats your idea of honesty.
What ever
go back to peddling your stolen crap on ebay.
I don't lie Scott, your record speaks for itself from the multiple bannings on here to the ripped off PTM design to the failed attempt to copy that design properly that led to many many hours of customer paid for tuning time trying to resolve an issue that would not/could not be fixed due to defective Jantzer stolen/copied PTM throttle bodies.
You have no credibility Scott I gave you a chance and when you tried to rip me off I closed the door and chapter on you. Now your back under what your 9th different name on here? Thats your idea of honesty.
What ever
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^^Speaking of Jantzer the banned one himself.
I don't lie Scott, your record speaks for itself from the multiple bannings on here to the ripped off PTM design to the failed attempt to copy that design properly that led to many many hours of customer paid for tuning time trying to resolve an issue that would not/could not be fixed due to defective Jantzer stolen/copied PTM throttle bodies.
You have no credibility Scott I gave you a chance and when you tried to rip me off I closed the door and chapter on you. Now your back under what your 9th different name on here? Thats your idea of honesty.
What ever
go back to peddling your stolen crap on ebay.
I don't lie Scott, your record speaks for itself from the multiple bannings on here to the ripped off PTM design to the failed attempt to copy that design properly that led to many many hours of customer paid for tuning time trying to resolve an issue that would not/could not be fixed due to defective Jantzer stolen/copied PTM throttle bodies.
You have no credibility Scott I gave you a chance and when you tried to rip me off I closed the door and chapter on you. Now your back under what your 9th different name on here? Thats your idea of honesty.
What ever
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You didn't close the door or chapter on anything. We are more successful now than ever. We have a reputation of the best quality and people know about it.
Well everybody in the pacific northwest knows your true colors. You're a joke. Jantzer Performance cut you off as a supplier for non payment and trying to hold 20+ throttle bodies, that is the 100% truth. Your defense was to play your reputation against ours, now that is quite the man. It's all documented info and you might find yourself in court very soon.
We did use the PTM as well as Nick Williams and FAST TB's to design our unit. We made our own tweeks as did the rest of them. If the design was stolen, then so was the PTM and Nick Williams and others. Fast was the only original design.
It's kind of like how you said for us to make a 100mm lid and then when we tried to do it, you said we stole your idea lol. You have no business sense. You're a dreamer and have no business knowledge. Then again, everybody knows you don't have any car knowledge either, you sit there and talk what Eric tells you like you know it. We have a tainted reputation from the past here on ls1tech, we can fix that. Our Ebay feedback is better than yours. You have a reputation for not knowing what you're talking about. When people in your backyard won't buy from you, that must tell you something.
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Scott here is one example of your honesty... anyone can do a search and see how you really are
This is just one example of who you are. I can post many many more examples to show your true colors. Here is another this covers a span of you from 05-08
Internet Fraud Charges 4/1/05 on Jantzer ( renamed )
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Well Folks I know this is stickied above but I am getting a list of people that have paid for product and not received, or got product and sent back the cores to not get the refunds.
I have sent countless emails to several different accounts. PM is full here. Tired of being nice and waiting. Pretty much all the same story I have been reading up here.
I have group legal through my work and will be calling to get full info on everything that needs to be done since he does not live in NC. Since for me its less then $500 most likely they will say to goto small claims, but again he does not live in NC so I am not sure again how to do this. Possibly a class action lawsuit so we all can combine and get paid. I will check into that also. (need more then just me for this extreme)
Also since this was done through the mail, I am checking into Mail Fraud Charges. I luckily paid through PAYPAL using my BOA credit card, and will call them to see about disputing the charges. One BAD issue is that by being strung along for so long it passed PAYPALs dispute date limits.
Please email me at dbaxter@baxtersystems.us if you would like to join the list for a mail fraud investigation.
I will keep a list of the names and will email you back once I find out exactly what .the FBI, or local Law requires to move on this. Most likely the normal, name, address, phone, product purchased, amount owed.
Please do not send me ANY credit card or bank info, let the law have that when they ask.
SORRY SCOTT. You asked for it, we all tried to be nice.
Mods I am not sure if this can be link into the detail and appearance, and gp forums since many of the people are waiting there. If so could you please??
( this was also emailed to him so he can't say he did not get it. ) These are just two small examples of you and your dishonesty
I would just like to warn anyone who deals with this guy to be carefull. If you leave him negative feedback that was justified he will make bogus claims and blame you and make up lies. And treats customers like crap and antagonizes them. here is what I sent as the feedback comment to Jantzer98ss and is smart *** reply
99z28monster 05-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Hopefully you can get your health situation straightend out before you jump into to many sales. I feel that you were just jerking me around on the shipping on the hood which is bad business. I paid you promptly however after the issue of the hood not being shipped I had the money pulled from paypal. After the hood was finally recieved you were paid that day. I feel I did everything on my side to make this a smooth transaction. The issue was on yours the sellers side in not doing what you said you would do. It took me pulling the money from paypal to get you to get the product shipped. I posted the link to the thread were multiple people complained about the same sort of issues with you. All I got from you was excuses and pity me I am sick. I am amazed that you have such positive feedback when you handle your self the way you have and still do. Hopefully this feedback helps others avoid dealing with similar issues in the future.
99z28monster 05-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Hopefully you can get your health situation straightend out before you jump into to many sales. I feel that you were just jerking me around on the shipping on the hood which is bad business. I paid you promptly however after the issue of the hood not being shipped I had the money pulled from paypal. After the hood was finally recieved you were paid that day. I feel I did everything on my side to make this a smooth transaction. The issue was on yours the sellers side in not doing what you said you would do. It took me pulling the money from paypal to get you to get the product shipped. I posted the link to the thread were multiple people complained about the same sort of issues with you. All I got from you was excuses and pity me I am sick. I am amazed that you have such positive feedback when you handle your self the way you have and still do. Hopefully this feedback helps others avoid dealing with similar issues in the future.
Internet Fraud Charges 4/1/05 on Jantzer ( renamed )
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Well Folks I know this is stickied above but I am getting a list of people that have paid for product and not received, or got product and sent back the cores to not get the refunds.
I have sent countless emails to several different accounts. PM is full here. Tired of being nice and waiting. Pretty much all the same story I have been reading up here.
I have group legal through my work and will be calling to get full info on everything that needs to be done since he does not live in NC. Since for me its less then $500 most likely they will say to goto small claims, but again he does not live in NC so I am not sure again how to do this. Possibly a class action lawsuit so we all can combine and get paid. I will check into that also. (need more then just me for this extreme)
Also since this was done through the mail, I am checking into Mail Fraud Charges. I luckily paid through PAYPAL using my BOA credit card, and will call them to see about disputing the charges. One BAD issue is that by being strung along for so long it passed PAYPALs dispute date limits.
Please email me at dbaxter@baxtersystems.us if you would like to join the list for a mail fraud investigation.
I will keep a list of the names and will email you back once I find out exactly what .the FBI, or local Law requires to move on this. Most likely the normal, name, address, phone, product purchased, amount owed.
Please do not send me ANY credit card or bank info, let the law have that when they ask.
SORRY SCOTT. You asked for it, we all tried to be nice.
Mods I am not sure if this can be link into the detail and appearance, and gp forums since many of the people are waiting there. If so could you please??
( this was also emailed to him so he can't say he did not get it. )
Last edited by 99blancoSS; 01-08-2010 at 12:55 PM.