LS6 Intake vs BBK
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I dont know if you know this or not, but F-bodys came with different intakes in different years. 98-00 came with the LS1 style intake, 01-02 came with the LS6 intake. If you would have read the OP signature he has a 98, which makes it an LS1 style.
Your statement above is true, going from an LS6 manifold to BBK is a waist of money just for maybe 5hp, but going from an LS1 to a BBK is going to make a bit of difference, and some people preffer the aluminum look (like me). So if the BBK only makes 5 more hp the an LS6 then why buy an LS6 manifold for $300+ if for the same money you can get the BBK and make more power, 5hp is 5hp it still counts towards the final HP number, plus you get the appereance of the nice clean aluminum
Your statement above is true, going from an LS6 manifold to BBK is a waist of money just for maybe 5hp, but going from an LS1 to a BBK is going to make a bit of difference, and some people preffer the aluminum look (like me). So if the BBK only makes 5 more hp the an LS6 then why buy an LS6 manifold for $300+ if for the same money you can get the BBK and make more power, 5hp is 5hp it still counts towards the final HP number, plus you get the appereance of the nice clean aluminum
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Oboro, no. The TB itself is not 'tuneable' as you're probably thinking. The MAF (mass airflow sensor) you're probably running is what reads how much air is going past into the intake and engine. So, a small change in the throttle body isn't going to necessitate having to retune the computer for the ignition system. Would it hurt, no. Would you net a noticeable change? No. Is it worth the cost to retune after changing a TB? No. Save your money for your next modifications.
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Just thought I'd add to this thread, I have mixed emotions about the BBK so far. My car has been consistantly running 12.7-12.8s with a best of 12.46 with good air. I installed the BBK SSI intake last friday and went down on the same tune I've been running for months and the car felt like a dog! I tried adding fuel as I could tell the car was leaning, no gains at all. The intake was soo hot you could roast hotdogs on it! The air was similar to the day I went the 12.46, the best the car went was a 12.99. It went 4 13.0s back to back mph was down 2-3 aslo. I'm working on the tune and fighting the additional engine temps, but at this point I'm considering putting my LS1 intake back on. I will update on Friday if there's no rain.
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Here's my 2 cents...
It comes down to long term purpose + your budget + your taste
If you're going for as much power as possible looking for a high HP car, then save up the cash and go FAST 102 with matched TB. Personally I don't plan on making over 450 rwtq and use my car for autox...so I don't need a high HP setup. I'm like you where I hate the look of the stock mani...so you can do something like I did and buy a LS6...and then paint it to whatever color you want. I painted mine satin black for now cause the rest of my engine bay is ugly...but when I clean up everything I'll repaint it to make it look better. I'm still running stock TB, but will be porting mine soon enough. I was porting a TB for a buddy, but my dremel burned up trying to sand it smooth...so I don't suggest a dremel unless you take your time and don't let it heat up.
So my suggestion is a LS6 with a ported TB, save you the cash, and if you want to look pretty paint the intake or even powdercoat or polish the TB. Save your money and get something additional to help make power...like headers
It comes down to long term purpose + your budget + your taste
If you're going for as much power as possible looking for a high HP car, then save up the cash and go FAST 102 with matched TB. Personally I don't plan on making over 450 rwtq and use my car for autox...so I don't need a high HP setup. I'm like you where I hate the look of the stock mani...so you can do something like I did and buy a LS6...and then paint it to whatever color you want. I painted mine satin black for now cause the rest of my engine bay is ugly...but when I clean up everything I'll repaint it to make it look better. I'm still running stock TB, but will be porting mine soon enough. I was porting a TB for a buddy, but my dremel burned up trying to sand it smooth...so I don't suggest a dremel unless you take your time and don't let it heat up.
So my suggestion is a LS6 with a ported TB, save you the cash, and if you want to look pretty paint the intake or even powdercoat or polish the TB. Save your money and get something additional to help make power...like headers
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Honestly I went over it in my head time after time and I pretty much came up with nothing. But I am leaning towards my MAF. I swapped it out and tweeked the tune a little, I'll see if that makes a difference on Friday. It was quite embarrassing though. Had several people asking me what was wrong with my car.
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Just thought I'd add to this thread, I have mixed emotions about the BBK so far. My car has been consistantly running 12.7-12.8s with a best of 12.46 with good air. I installed the BBK SSI intake last friday and went down on the same tune I've been running for months and the car felt like a dog! I tried adding fuel as I could tell the car was leaning, no gains at all. The intake was soo hot you could roast hotdogs on it! The air was similar to the day I went the 12.46, the best the car went was a 12.99. It went 4 13.0s back to back mph was down 2-3 aslo. I'm working on the tune and fighting the additional engine temps, but at this point I'm considering putting my LS1 intake back on. I will update on Friday if there's no rain.
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I'm building an LQ9 based engine with 317's. Picked up a BBK SSI for 300.00 so why not.... yeah, it looks pretty and I'm still kicking around the idea of forced induction. So, if all else is equal at least it looks pretty and I can spray it!
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Although weight is something to consider and it will make a difference its not a major factor compared to potential power gains over the LS1. Something else thats worth considering, that I think is the BBK's major fall back is even though it is Aluminum it isn't composite plastic which means its more prone to getting heat soaked. This will rob you some of the gains, lets say the BBK yields 10% more hp then the LS6 which I think would be pretty generous. A metal intake that gets heat soaked easier then the LS6 could easily start losing you that 10% extra power and more. If you don't think so then there is no reason not to get a BBK. But in my opinion and alot of other people that did their research on this issue we feel that the LS6 is tried tested and true and well worth the minimal investment. Both are very comparble to each other and one sheds heat much more efficiently then the other. Obvious decission in my eyes. Ofcourse, people that have the BBK are going to support their decission much like the people that have the LS6 are going to support theirs so really this whole line of questioning is completely redundant and arbitrary. But enjoy this thread thats going to become nothing more then a poll "what are most people running"