Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

are my mac headers a bottle neck?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:31 PM
  #1  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default are my mac headers a bottle neck?

I had my engine replaced a while back with the one in my sig. It's a heads and cam with full bolt ons. Just wondering if my mac headers are a bottle neck or not. It made 423/400 and the previous owner had the big 1 7/8 headers and 3 inch duals vs my macs and 2.5 duals and it made 434/408 in his car. Should I spend the extra money for long tubes or just stick with the macs and hook the hose back up. I just don't see spending 700 bucks for 10-12 hp. I already have the dry nos 5177 kit on my car it's just not tuned for the bottle. I could more than make up for the headers with a little bottle.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:18 PM
  #2  
Pntbll309's Avatar
11 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 926
Likes: 0
From: Colorado Springs
Default

The headers and intake manifold are your bottlenecks. Get the air in and out faster and in a higher quantity.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:30 PM
  #3  
shaolink9's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
From: DelrayBeach/Tampa,Florida
Default

i wouldnt i love my macs, plus keep in my alot of factors influence dyno numbers. Hope this helps.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:39 PM
  #4  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by shaolink9
i wouldnt i love my macs, plus keep in my alot of factors influence dyno numbers. Hope this helps.
yeah for now, I think I'll just spray a 150 shot and grin from ear to ear. I have plenty of fuel goodies to support it. Maybe later on when I can afford it, get some long tubes and a bigger intake. But then I'd need a bigger t/b as well. When will it end? I bet it would hit 550 rwhp with a 150 shot or close to it as it sits.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 01:07 AM
  #5  
Quik Sand's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: Edmond, Ok
Default

Im in a similar position (I also run the Macs). I made a thread similar to this and the responses were pretty divided. Personally Im going to stick with the Macs until I can afford LT's, Fast intake, and bigger throttle body
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 01:36 AM
  #6  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Quik Sand
Im in a similar position (I also run the Macs). I made a thread similar to this and the responses were pretty divided. Personally Im going to stick with the Macs until I can afford LT's, Fast intake, and bigger throttle body
that's what I'm thinking also. By the time you add in labor, it's just not worth the extra 10-15 hp. I could sale my setup but it's just not worth the trouble me thinks. I'm sure I'll be happier when I hook the bottle back up.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:09 AM
  #7  
RrCoX22's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 0
From: Ft. Bragg, NC
Default

are you asking if "macs and 2.5 duals" are better than "the big 1 7/8 headers and 3 inch duals" ???

this is a no brainer far as which one will produce more power overall... although if your main concern is "through the curve" than you have a decision as you will most likely lose some low end with the 1-7/8" and 3" duals
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:22 AM
  #8  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by RrCoX22
are you asking if "macs and 2.5 duals" are better than "the big 1 7/8 headers and 3 inch duals" ???

this is a no brainer far as which one will produce more power overall... although if your main concern is "through the curve" than you have a decision as you will most likely lose some low end with the 1-7/8" and 3" duals
No, I know they will produce more power overall but would it be worth the money for an additional 10-12 hp with my setup. I could make a shitload more power than that hooking the bottle back up and it would be way cheaper. The guy who had the engine before me didn't make much more than I do now on motor.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:25 AM
  #9  
RrCoX22's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 0
From: Ft. Bragg, NC
Default

you most likely would benefit more by going to 1-3/4" longtubes... you'll definitely lose some down low which most likely won't make up for the gains up top.

just save for some 1-3/4" and y-pipe and then you can ease off the bottle
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:59 AM
  #10  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by RrCoX22
you most likely would benefit more by going to 1-3/4" longtubes... you'll definitely lose some down low which most likely won't make up for the gains up top.

just save for some 1-3/4" and y-pipe and then you can ease off the bottle
I'm pretty sure my duals are better than any y-pipe and I'll never back off the bottle lol. I think I'll get some 1-3/4 and have my duals redone to fit those. After that look into a bigger intake. Then again, many guys are making great power with the LS6 intake.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:13 AM
  #11  
JP's Avatar
JP
On The Tree
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: Alabama
Default

Originally Posted by Quik Sand
Im in a similar position (I also run the Macs). I made a thread similar to this and the responses were pretty divided. Personally Im going to stick with the Macs until I can afford LT's, Fast intake, and bigger throttle body
same here
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:53 AM
  #12  
Ping King's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,636
Likes: 9
From: PA
Default

Keep them for the ground clearance. If anything have some v band's welded onto the collectors and run 3" pipe to the begining of the x.

I did that. great ground clearance. I was stupid and went to edelbrock headers which are fantastic, but hang lower.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:21 AM
  #13  
Fifedogg's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default

I would just find a cheap set of pacesetter 1 3/4's LT's. You can find them for super cheap in the classified section.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 01:40 PM
  #14  
DarkJuggalo's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,275
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, NC / Ansonia,CT
Default

i would switch to long tubes, thats whats holding you back
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2010 | 11:24 PM
  #15  
edzsilverss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DarkJuggalo
i would switch to long tubes, thats whats holding you back
I will but then should I keep the 2.5 duals? I just can't afford both headers and 3" duals right now. I could always run 3" tubing to the x of the duals for a little more breathing room if I keep the 2.5 duals. What about the pro flow mufflers I have on there now? Should I change those for dynomax bullets for a little more flow?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:11 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE