Mac vs. Pacesetter
Originally Posted by Zanthius
I heard that some people had to grind down a bit of their blocks when installing FLP LTs. Either that your push the engine over one side so they'll fit. Is anything like that involved in installing the Pacesetters? I'm looking into a set myself, but I dont want the hassle of grinding down any part of my car.
I'm switching from Mac's to Pacesetters in that I think they'll help me out more in the long run once I get the heads back... I ordered my set through Texas Speed & Performance on a Mon & they were at my work by Wed.. I dont' know why some of you say they're junk, the quality was just as good as the Macs if not better for half the price... That's just my 2 pennies...
As I posted in the other MAC thread, I've had both MACs and LTs. The MACs were a breeze to install...both sides dropped in from the top with the passenger VC removed. Nothing rubbed, ground, or leaked and I made 30rwhp with the MACs (with cats!) and a LS6 intake on an otherwise stock untuned car. When I went with a big H/C package, I had a HP number in mind and was encouraged to use the LTs to hit that target. I can't complain about the long tubes and really wonder why the MACs get slagged so much. They are dirt cheap used (I sold mine for under $300) and with a little collector work will make great power.
I just installed pacesetters on my car and it wasn't that hard the passenger side was very easy but on the driver side I had to jack the motor up and grind a little on the k member. The headers looked really good to me. I still need to order a y-pipe was going to order the pacesetter but are there any other brands that I could buy?
Originally Posted by 02Z28
I just installed pacesetters on my car and it wasn't that hard the passenger side was very easy but on the driver side I had to jack the motor up and grind a little on the k member. The headers looked really good to me. I still need to order a y-pipe was going to order the pacesetter but are there any other brands that I could buy?
Quite possibly the crushed portion of the Pace Setter drivers pipe will flow as much as most engines will require. It has more area than a 2 1/2" pipe even with the crush. The real problem lies in the collector.
after reading all this i am even more confused. I am currently running MAC's right now with 2.5 true duals dumped at the axle, but may be stepping up soon with cam or H/C and wondering if the MACs can handle it. I really dont want to have to spend the extra money to get LT's and get my dual exhaust redone, but I do want to get the most out of the car. Any good advice on this would be appreciate...on a limited budget here, but dont want to half-*** it too much.
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I have had BOTH the Pacesetters and the Hookers. The Paceseters ARE made of a thinner material so because of that they have more of a resonance sound to them especially in the 2400 RPM range. They also (pacesetters) tend to fit too closely to the bottom of the car especially on the driver's side. I do think they are a good value for the money though. The only complaint I have about the Hookers is that their coating sucks because that nice pretty silver finish dulled pretty quickly (LOL).
I just switched from Macs to Pacestters as of this past Sat... I could tell a very noticable gain in the low end torque area... Tomarrow I'm having the car dynoed to see exactly how much I picked up from the swap.. I'll post the before & after dyno graphs when I get a chance.
Mike.
Mike.
I just installed a set of MACS from the top both sides. Passenger side removed the valve cover, drivers removed the steering knuckle. Piece of cake.
I helped do a set of Hookers a few months back and the LT's are more difficult to install.
I helped do a set of Hookers a few months back and the LT's are more difficult to install.
I had Macs (sold them on camaroz28.com), now I have Pacesetters. Both headers were easy to install in my book. Pacesetters to me were of average quality. The only problem I had was they sent me the wrong ones for my 99, even after I made sure to let them know. I called and got a representative who said he'd help me out if I faxed him my receipt. I faxed it in, and tried getting in contact with him like 4 times. Each time I talked to another employee who said he'd leave a msg for him (John) to call me back. He never did, and was never available. No Luck. I eventually just blocked them off and went on my merry way. I would say the Pacesetters are WELL worth the $330 I paid for them though. And there is a definate difference in the feel of the car and power.
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Heres what im not understanding.The LT can flow better correct? Then with a good heads/cam setup how can they NOT make more power? I know for a fact my pacesetters make more power then my macs did.
MM98 - did you dyno yet?
MM98 - did you dyno yet?
Originally Posted by SSactionLs1
MM98 - did you dyno yet?
Mike
