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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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I've got an ls1 with only a tune and a K&N air flow system on the engine. I was thinking about putting a MSD ignition system on it, but was advised to do some research first. If anyone has had any experience with this system and the pros/cons, I would really appreciate the input! I'm also open to other suggestion of what to spend $900 on to max my performance.
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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cam, pushrods, timing chain, oil pump, and valve springs...all these together could be had for less then $900. the stock coils are good to well over 700hp and there is no reason to change them. i am sure a guy that owns MSD coils will chime in and tell you they are not necessary.
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 02:34 AM
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Cool! Thanks for the information! I want to eventually do a complete rebuild, but that's another thread.
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 03:04 AM
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Don't buy MSD anything. The only thing that is OK to buy are the MSD spark plug wires, but even they are a waste of money.
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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^ Yeah.. There's not really much you can do. The Coils are pointless and if you got a 6AL box, that would mostly be for a swap and carb'd motor. The stock system is pretty powerful. You could do a set of NGK Tr55 plugs or TR6's for higher power levels.
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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I went to buy some NGKs once but was told that the porcelain was crap and that in a box of 4 you'd be lucky to get 3 good ones. But I also heard that they were proven on a stock ls1 to raise the HP by 8 on a dyno. So I will look onto getting a set! Thanks again for the input!
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by L1T3MUP72
I went to buy some NGKs once but was told that the porcelain was crap and that in a box of 4 you'd be lucky to get 3 good ones. But I also heard that they were proven on a stock ls1 to raise the HP by 8 on a dyno. So I will look onto getting a set! Thanks again for the input!
The ngk is a great plug and never herd of the porcelain issue... and no the msd wires dont yield any power gains. The ls1 plug wires are less than a foot long... stock wires are perfectly fine if they are in good shape. If you need plugs and wires contact nastyn8, wich is a sponsor on this board. He has msd plug wires and your choice of ngk tr6/tr5 plug all for 70.00 shipped!
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WS6 store also has a great selection of plug and wire combos for a pretty competitive price. i got a lot of my trans am stuff from there, cant complain and the customer service is some of the best i have ever found. if you have a problem mike (the owner) will call or email you right away with a solution!
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Originally Posted by trans_am7935
WS6 store also has a great selection of plug and wire combos for a pretty competitive price. i got a lot of my trans am stuff from there, cant complain and the customer service is some of the best i have ever found. if you have a problem mike (the owner) will call or email you right away with a solution!
Thier msd wire & ngk spark plug package is 74.99 plus shipping! Im pretty sure nate@nastyperformance is the cheapest around @ 70.00 shipped... but I agree ws6 store has always been a reputable place to shop imo!
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Sounds like it's tune up time for me! I'm new to ls1 tech so I didn't know anything about site sponsors. This has been great information and I will stear clear of the msd ignition system!
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The MSD 6010/6012 boxes were designed to be used either stand-alone with a carb or piggy-backed into the factory PCM with an add-on harness. When used with the factory PCM, you'll get complete programmable control over your spark curve, single or two-step rev limiter, boost retard, control for a shift light, etc. Pretty much whatever is available in stand-alone mode is (allegedly) available in piggy-back mode although I don't recall ever seeing anyone actually do this...
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