Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Band clamps vs 3-bolt flanges?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 02:32 PM
  #1  
FAST LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Athens TN
Default Band clamps vs 3-bolt flanges?

I'm wondering which is a better overall way to hold an exhaust together where it needs to be removable. I looked into the 3-bolt flanges for true duals to attach the x-pipe to the headers, but found these band clamps.


After looking at it, it seems like an expanded pipe over the collector and a band clamp would flow better and probably weigh less/be less work than a 3-bolt flange?
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 06:22 PM
  #2  
jrp's Avatar
jrp
SN95 Director
20 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,755
Likes: 7
From: Valencia, Ca
Default

im using 3 bolt flanges on my Y pipe setup and have had absoslutely zero problems and removal is a breeze. for my dual setup im going with the band clamps you posted, well see how that goes.
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 06:26 PM
  #3  
strokedls1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,829
Likes: 0
From: Venice, Ca
Default

Band clamps suck and alway leak from my experiece. The three bolt flange is the way to go.
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 07:30 PM
  #4  
kp's Avatar
kp
8 Second Club
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,852
Likes: 1
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Three bolt flanges will leak after a while also but they are better then the band clamps IMO. If I were to be removing it a lot the 3 bolt is the way to go. The band clamps will stretch out after a while and lose their tension if you take them on and off a lot. Not to mention that even if they are pretty tight they will still let the pipe slide out, that wont happen with the 3 bolt flange. But on the downside the 3 bolt flange will reduce ground clearance a bit..
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:08 AM
  #5  
FAST LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Athens TN
Default

The ground clearance is one of my main concerns with the true duals. I guess I won't be taking the exahust off and on much, just need the ability to take it apart from the headers. I'll probably have to go with the band clamps since I can't get the welder out to the ramp to weld the first 3-bolt flange onto the headers Forgot that it's too far out in the back yard and the welder won't work on 2 extension cords.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:20 AM
  #6  
-Joseph-'s Avatar
LSxGuy widda 9sec Mustang
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 0
From: Texas and Qatar
Default

v-clamp kits if you wanna spend some cash! They work great.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 09:02 AM
  #7  
Larry's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Sugar Land, TX
Default

I have both band clamps and a three bolt flange joint in my exhaust system. Both seem to work well. I have had the band clamp off numberous times and it's still tight. No welding with the band clamps. If their is a chance it could pull out either from vibration or acceleration then the flange might be a better choice.

Last edited by Larry; Feb 8, 2004 at 11:19 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 09:26 AM
  #8  
KGSloan's Avatar
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, Ok
Default

i use a three bolt flange. i had problems with blowing out paper gaskets with this setup. i stepped the gaskets up to some metal percys and i havn't had any problems since. it is very easy to remove my entire exhaust, that's what i love about them. 10 minutes under the car and it's off
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 09:37 AM
  #9  
shawn's SS's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: Manchester, N.H.
Default

I believe you'll find that band clamps work better for pipes that are butted together (same size pipe). And I wish they made them with about an inch or two longer on the one end to better encompass the pipe (hard to explain) Don't laugh I tried The top one would be a normal band clamp the bottom one is my version
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2004 | 01:08 PM
  #10  
02bluess's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Bloomington, IL
Default

Originally Posted by -Joseph-
v-clamp kits if you wanna spend some cash! They work great.
Ok, I'll bite What's a v-clamp??
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:04 AM
  #11  
Turnin'LT4's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, NC
Default

You should get some ball and cone two bolt flanges. i have them on my collectors and after my X. no gaskets, no leaking. Look on Dr. Gas's website. They aren't that expensive either.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:17 AM
  #12  
-Joseph-'s Avatar
LSxGuy widda 9sec Mustang
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 0
From: Texas and Qatar
Default

Originally Posted by 02bluess
Ok, I'll bite What's a v-clamp??
http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=6942


I've seen them as low as $35 a set, and sometimes as much as $80. They work well on cars where your changing stuff up all the time.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:31 AM
  #13  
jrp's Avatar
jrp
SN95 Director
20 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,755
Likes: 7
From: Valencia, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by -Joseph-
http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=6942


I've seen them as low as $35 a set, and sometimes as much as $80. They work well on cars where your changing stuff up all the time.
so is welding required since it says "Kit includes two weld-on v-clamp rings and stainless stell v-band clamp" or are they two seperate clampss
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:45 AM
  #14  
kp's Avatar
kp
8 Second Club
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,852
Likes: 1
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by Turnin'LT4
You should get some ball and cone two bolt flanges. i have them on my collectors and after my X. no gaskets, no leaking. Look on Dr. Gas's website. They aren't that expensive either.
Yea, forgot about the ball flanges - they work well also..
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 02:12 AM
  #15  
-Joseph-'s Avatar
LSxGuy widda 9sec Mustang
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 0
From: Texas and Qatar
Default

Originally Posted by jrp
so is welding required since it says "Kit includes two weld-on v-clamp rings and stainless stell v-band clamp" or are they two seperate clampss
Yes welding is necessary. The kit comes with 1 clamp and 2 flanges, enough to connect one pipe to another pipe.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:23 AM
  #16  
2xLS1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,649
Likes: 9
From: Warr Acres, OK
Default

Originally Posted by -Joseph-
http://www.secureperformanceorder.co...ProductID=6942


I've seen them as low as $35 a set, and sometimes as much as $80. They work well on cars where your changing stuff up all the time.
Those are what FLP uses on their cats and race pipes.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 01:40 PM
  #17  
Fulton 1's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,326
Likes: 0
From: WA
Default

I'm using a V-band clamp between my Y-pipe and I-pipe. Works great and makes removal easy.

Burns also sells a V-band kit - they're pricey, but they are stainless: http://www.burnsstainless.com/Hardwa...ps/clamps.html
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 05:33 PM
  #18  
mullettour's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

You could try these but they are a bit pricey.
http://www.pi-thon.com/products.htm
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 05:48 PM
  #19  
shawn's SS's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: Manchester, N.H.
Default

Originally Posted by Fulton 1
I'm using a V-band clamp between my Y-pipe and I-pipe. Works great and makes removal easy.

Burns also sells a V-band kit - they're pricey, but they are stainless: http://www.burnsstainless.com/Hardwa...ps/clamps.html

there clamps are pricey but, there X and Y pipes look like nice pieces
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 06:40 PM
  #20  
02bluess's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Bloomington, IL
Default

Originally Posted by -Joseph-
Yes welding is necessary. The kit comes with 1 clamp and 2 flanges, enough to connect one pipe to another pipe.
Damn... I can't weld, and shops around here won't touch my car with the ORY, so I guess it'll be the ol' aluminum tape / band clamp for me again
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE