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Old 01-04-2011 | 01:09 AM
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I really doubt there could be much gain if any. I don't think it would be worth the money and the swap since you already have headers
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
I dynoed 358 with the pacesetter lts, lid, and catback. I could be wrong but I dont think I would have gotten more with the tsp headers...
You would be wrong. That engine dyno linked above showed the results. Even on a stock motor, the 1 7/8" headers make better power! They are not too big, they don't kill back-pressure, etc. They are a good upgrade!
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Old 01-04-2011 | 09:46 AM
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Also thinking about doing the TSP's. I want to know how much of a bottle neck my original design SLP longtubes are hurting me on my car. Let alone 2 of the primarys on the passenger side being flattened out.
Old 01-04-2011 | 10:46 AM
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Check my tsp17/8 on my albums I have no regrets with them
Old 01-04-2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
I dynoed 358 with the pacesetter lts, lid, and catback. I could be wrong but I dont think I would have gotten more with the tsp headers...
Just because it put down good numbers doesn't mean it couldn't do better

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I really doubt there could be much gain if any. I don't think it would be worth the money and the swap since you already have headers
6-8hp is definitely worth the swap since Ill only have a couple hundred in the swap after selling my pacesetters. And since I now have a BMR k-member the swap should be a breeze!
Old 01-04-2011 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnet
Just because it put down good numbers doesn't mean it couldn't do better



6-8hp is definitely worth the swap since Ill only have a couple hundred in the swap after selling my pacesetters. And since I now have a BMR k-member the swap should be a breeze!
Well yeah but id never uninstall headers only to reinstall a different brand and hope to gain a small amount of power. lol
Old 01-04-2011 | 06:14 PM
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i currently dont have any headers...just looking for the best bang for the buck...are the hooker 2291's comparable to the TSP's?
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
Well yeah but id never uninstall headers only to reinstall a different brand and hope to gain a small amount of power. lol
No dedication... lol jk

Think about it this way... how many people buy underdrive pulleys for $200 and hope for 6-8 hp? A LOT!!!!!

I'm doing the same thing, spending $200 and hoping for 6-8hp
Old 01-04-2011 | 08:58 PM
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TSP 1 7/8" headers for the win.
Old 01-04-2011 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnet
No dedication... lol jk

Think about it this way... how many people buy underdrive pulleys for $200 and hope for 6-8 hp? A LOT!!!!!

I'm doing the same thing, spending $200 and hoping for 6-8hp
I doubt it would be 6-8. Maybe on a heads/cam car.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
I doubt it would be 6-8. Maybe on a heads/cam car.
I did say hope

From the thread I linked to:

"The 1 7/8" headers made a peak hp of 414.x hp & 421lb ft while the 1 3/4" headers made 408hp & 419 lb ft of torque. While this isn't a huge difference, it definately shows that even on a basically stock car the larger headers are still a good investment!"
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Im going to be buying the TSP LT's this week!
Old 01-09-2011 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Teakwo23
Im going to be buying the TSP LT's this week!
Awesome! Mine are on their way!
Old 01-20-2011 | 02:37 PM
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I've been debating on pacesetters or TSP LT. I'm going with the TSP!!!! Thanks for the insight from this thread!
Old 01-20-2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
Like the link in post #14 shows, the 1 7/8" headers will make better power from about 2000rpm all the way to redline, even on a basically stock 346ci!
How is the ground clearance of TSP 1 7/8 V.S. BBK headers & Y-pipe for lowered cars?
Old 01-20-2011 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lower_the_dynamite
Also thinking about doing the TSP's. I want to know how much of a bottle neck my original design SLP longtubes are hurting me on my car. Let alone 2 of the primarys on the passenger side being flattened out.
On a build like yours, they would be definitely worth it man, even more so with the nitrous! Do it and don't look back! Get the TSP ORY as well, with its adjustability and higher flow, you cannot go wrong!
Old 01-21-2011 | 10:32 AM
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I wouldn't even THINK of running anything other than 1 7/8", even on a stock motored car.
Old 01-21-2011 | 07:03 PM
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I'm considering these as well. My only issue is that there not S/S, but neither are the true duals I want so...
Old 01-21-2011 | 07:34 PM
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I think that these have got to be one of the best buys as far as headers, hundreds less than all the stainless ones and they don't look like crap after a month



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