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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Im looking to buy Pacesetter Painted Headers & Off-Road Y-Pipe Combo
what kind of problems arise from this swap like dents and dings in long tubes clearance between them and ground. also how will this affect changing spark plugs.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Running pacesetters here and love em... one of the best bang for the buck longtube headers for sure. I was also running their Y pipe with no issues. I would save to get the ceramic coated headers for sure.

You should be able to find a used set of headers in the classifeds for alot less.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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I have that set up with slp lm1 and love it! Just get new motor mounts or it will bang on the floor. Plugs are easy to change with headers!
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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i like easy plugs. the first time i changed them it took forever. im trying to find a write up on getting rid of the plastic cover over the heater core or making it small to make it even easier.

BTW could you explain the difference ceramic coated and painted. Is it just they will last longer. Also i work at a place that will powder coat them for around $10.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Summit Racing will price match. I got my ceramic pacesetters for 369.98
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PheonixLS1
Summit Racing will price match. I got my ceramic pacesetters for 369.98
who did you price match with?
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Go with ceramic coating.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Your car will be ALOT louder

Is that a problem

Ground clearence does suck with that combo. I just avoid speed bumps.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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[QUOTE=MikeWS6;14527060]Your car will be ALOT louder

Is that a problem

Im sry I didnt mention im 21 years old and a gear head since i can remember i make everything louder. LOL

If i leave it open "y" will the car have a raspy sound im pretty sure it will however i can be wrong. sry if i ask too many questions however i went to ls1sounds and no one had one with a stock camshaft.
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I have the plain old black painted pacsetters with tsp ory. I seem to be one of the only people on this board who didnt have to much of a problem with the tsp ory. The other guys said something bout bad clearance with this setup, seriously idk how it could be bad. Ill get some pics for ya.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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The clearence issues with mine is probably due to the cats. Its not THAT bad I guess.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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i didn't have to cut anything when i installed my pacesetters, but i did have to remove the steering linkage, it wasn't hard.....i went with the ceramic coated ones and love them....headers and true duals were the best mods i've done to my car so far.....i'm lowered almost 2" (no cats) and my ground clearance is good everywhere except for the tallest speedbumps, stock ride height should be ok w/pacesetters....before duals, i bought the pacestter y-pipe and sold it quickly.....get the TSP-y, it has a much better merge
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Thank you so much. I love this forum bc of all the people who have done it before and know wat their talkin bout. My father told me as a boy " why learn from your own mistakes when u can learn from others".
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I have BBK long tubes and ORY. Spark plugs are cake to change now. Little bit lower then stock no issues though.
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Runnin ceramic coated pacesetters with tsp duals on a 98 formula..didnt have to cut, dent, or remove anything extra to install em, just slid right up and clearance isnt much worse..just a little but with the duals and a lowered car, I don't have clearance anyway haha

whats this about changing spark plugs is cake now tho? Still a bitch haha
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Don't go cutting your block lol. If you take the steering linkage out before hand it makes it easier than pie. 7 hours tops oh and get band clamps and sealant. Don't use those crap u clamps or you WILL have clearance issues lol
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No cutting of anything here. The motor mount comment is a good suggestion. Get the coated ones for sure or they'll look like *** in a year.







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i should have done motor mounts as well seeing how i had 2 lift one side of the engine anyway but texas speed headers 1(7/8)










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