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nik1703 Oct 10, 2011 05:25 PM

going to junkyard - need help ID'ing
 
So this weekend I will be going to the junkyard to find a 10 bolt differential for my Camaro. Most of the cars (fbodys at least) in the junkyard are missing the motor, so what's going to be the best way to identify if the car was an ls1 or not? Also, what will be the best way to determine the gear ratio of the diff in the car? aaaand lastly, what all tools will i need to bring?

Thanks!

6898camaross Oct 10, 2011 06:10 PM

Probably the best way would be the rpo codes

joecar Oct 10, 2011 07:02 PM

You know how an LT1 Camaro/Firebird looks compared to an LS1 Camaro/Firebird, right...?

Like 6898 said, look at the RPO codes (on the end of the driver side door).

For the gear ratio look for RPO code GUx (where x is a number).

Or look at the VIN:
- 8th letter = engine code: G=LS1.
- 10th letter = year code: W=1998, X=1999, Y=2000, 1=2001, 2=2002.


Which yard are you visiting...?

nik1703 Oct 10, 2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by joecar (Post 15492160)
You know how an LT1 Camaro/Firebird looks compared to an LS1 Camaro/Firebird, right...?

Like 6898 said, look at the RPO codes (on the end of the driver side door).

For the gear ratio look for RPO code GUx (where x is a number).

Or look at the VIN:
- 8th letter = engine code: G=LS1.
- 10th letter = year code: W=1998, X=1999, Y=2000, 1=2001, 2=2002.


Which yard are you visiting...?

I meant telling the difference between V6 and LS1, not LT1 and LS1.

But V6's have different ratio's and diffs, no? (i dont know shit about the v6)

http://www.pickyourpart.com/location...es/#wilmington

^^ that's the yard i'm heading too. Been there once before.... that place is f'ing massive..

01ssreda4 Oct 10, 2011 11:41 PM

Check the vin for G as the LS1 engine code. That will tell you if it was a v8 car.

redbird555 Oct 11, 2011 09:35 AM

the v6 cars usually came with an open differential so you'll need to find one with posi. also the standard ratio for a v6 auto is 3.08 and optional 3.42 for the 5spd it only came with 3.23's.
On the door code look for g80 that means it has posi, then gu4 is 3.08 geras, gu5 is 3.23 gears and gu6 is 3.42geard

joecar Oct 11, 2011 10:35 AM

If you have traction control (i.e with 4 channel ABS) you also need to see RPO code NW9.

2manytoyz Oct 11, 2011 10:36 AM

look for the 150 cluster

nik1703 Oct 11, 2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 (Post 15493385)
Check the vin for G as the LS1 engine code. That will tell you if it was a v8 car.


Originally Posted by redbird555 (Post 15494260)
the v6 cars usually came with an open differential so you'll need to find one with posi. also the standard ratio for a v6 auto is 3.08 and optional 3.42 for the 5spd it only came with 3.23's.
On the door code look for g80 that means it has posi, then gu4 is 3.08 geras, gu5 is 3.23 gears and gu6 is 3.42geard


Originally Posted by joecar (Post 15494453)
If you have traction control (i.e with 4 channel ABS) you also need to see RPO code NW9.


Good info guys, thanks!

Anyone know what all tools I will need to pull it?

joecar Oct 11, 2011 02:48 PM

Do you want the whole axle (including abs subharness, brake lines, parking brake cable)...?

wrenches: 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, and maybe 16mm
sockets: same
rachet
breaker bar (just in case)
hammer (to push bolts out of lower control arms)
large diagonal cutters (to pry bolts the rest of the way out)


off the top of my head:
undo electrical connector from chassis just in front of axle (driver side, inboard from wheel well)
undo brake hoses from chassis just in front of axle (next to electrical connector);
undo parking brake cables from just behind transmission;
undo driveshaft straps from yoke;
undo sway bar from chassis (will they throw in the sway bar?);
undo panhard/track bar from axle;
undo lower end of shocks (watch out, axle falls down, springs fall out);
undo lower control arms from axle;
pull axle backwards (torque arm slides out of bushing at rear of transmission, pulls transmission vent hose with it);
remove torque arm if necessary.

nik1703 Oct 11, 2011 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by joecar (Post 15495299)
Do you want the whole axle (including abs subharness, brake lines, parking brake cable)...?

wrenches: 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, and maybe 16mm
sockets: same
rachet
breaker bar (just in case)
hammer (to push bolts out of lower control arms)
large diagonal cutters (to pry bolts the rest of the way out)


off the top of my head:
undo electrical connector from chassis just in front of axle (driver side, inboard from wheel well)
undo brake hoses from chassis just in front of axle (next to electrical connector);
undo parking brake cables from just behind transmission;
undo driveshaft straps from yoke;
undo sway bar from chassis (will they throw in the sway bar?);
undo panhard/track bar from axle;
undo lower end of shocks (watch out, axle falls down, springs fall out);
undo lower control arms from axle;
pull axle backwards (torque arm slides out of bushing at rear of transmission, pulls transmission vent hose with it);
remove torque arm if necessary.

awesome! thanks!

yes, i'd be getting the whole axle, minus the calipers, so i'd remove those and leave them hanging

bww3588 Oct 13, 2011 08:19 AM

You also need am 18 mm wrench for most of the suspension components

nik1703 Oct 13, 2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by bww3588 (Post 15502480)
You also need am 18 mm wrench for most of the suspension components

Am I going to need to replace any suspension related bushings?

VandykeT/A Oct 13, 2011 07:05 PM

I'm gonna say 85 percent of the cars you'll find in the junkyard are v6 cars but you could look for the Z28 or SS emblems. And look for a hole in the floor to see if your a M6 or A4. M6 3.42 A4 273 or 323


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