Did I just pay $100 for a small appearance mod?
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Did I just pay $100 for a small appearance mod? Hey guys,
Not really new to the car anymore but I'm just getting started with the minor bolt-ons. Anyway, I purchased the SLP lid and it didn't really seem to do that much for the car. Haven't been to the track yet to get numbers though. I had smoothed out the inside of the stocker lid so maybe that's why I'm not feeling a bigger difference. On the plus side it does dress up the engine bay a bit by getting rid of those awful, flow stealing baffles. It also gave me a nice throatier engine note at WOT, you can definitely tell the beast is breathing better, and it gave me a crisper throttle response. Now I'm ready to for more mods ...next up, MAC header install.(once I get the TSP cat-back) I'll be able to feel those gains in the SOTP right?
Thanks for listening,
Justin
Not really new to the car anymore but I'm just getting started with the minor bolt-ons. Anyway, I purchased the SLP lid and it didn't really seem to do that much for the car. Haven't been to the track yet to get numbers though. I had smoothed out the inside of the stocker lid so maybe that's why I'm not feeling a bigger difference. On the plus side it does dress up the engine bay a bit by getting rid of those awful, flow stealing baffles. It also gave me a nice throatier engine note at WOT, you can definitely tell the beast is breathing better, and it gave me a crisper throttle response. Now I'm ready to for more mods ...next up, MAC header install.(once I get the TSP cat-back) I'll be able to feel those gains in the SOTP right?
Thanks for listening,
Justin
Some people tend to "feel" the mod's gains better then others. There is no doubt the lid free'd up some power. I have a poor increase in power detecting skill, I can swear my headers didn't do anything to my car, while it should of given 15-20rwhp... Those are just my thoughts...
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The power on the LS1 is not peaky....so to me it's harder to notice that the car is actually faster with small mods like a lid or something. I got my headers on...and the car didn't feel much faster.....until I went to the track and noticed that I gained almost 4 mph at the traps while having a horrendous misfire...LOL
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Originally Posted by 98SS Blackattack
Macs put up good numbers.
I saw somewhere on the forum that MACs have dynoed within 5 HP to some LTs. I just don't want the hassle of LTs don't want to have to worry about ground clearance and other junk. I was seriously contemplating some pacesetters but I got a pretty awesome deal on these MACs so I'm not complaining. Anyway, what kind of gains are typical with a header/ORY install? I'll be installing my cat-back system at the same time so I oughtta feel something at the SOTP. At least I better, or I'm gonna have to seriously think on if I do any more performance mods. Maybe I should just get a S/C and be through with it
Oh and BTW thanks for your responses thus far.Justin
2 mods that i actually felt are the SLP cold air induction kit and my headers. I really felt that CAI kit especially at a roll. I proved it to racing my buddies worked 97 SS i never used to pull on him THAT hard before untill i got the CAI kit then it pulled like a mad man. now that i got the headers he doesnt want to play anymore 
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
keep in mind those macs are midlength
get those if you want to continue doing mods that dont make a SOTP difference.
get those if you want to continue doing mods that dont make a SOTP difference.
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Originally Posted by Steve98Z
Hahhah, I guess this is some peoples justification for why they spend $1000+ on headers, each to his own but there are plent of Mac midlengths on 10 sec cars.............
Originally Posted by JustAnotherSS
considering pacesetters can be had for the same price as macs...there's really no point anymore. maybe back in the day they were a good deal
Originally Posted by Unstang
It is not just the price for me though. Ground clearence, install, and the fact I don't want to fight LT's every time I change my oil are all reasons for me going with the MACs.
hooker/pacesetter/flowtech's have pretty much factory ground clearance..its the SLP's that suck which is why i changed to hooker. My car is SLAMMED in the front with my hal setup and I'm fine. Install is easier on a longtube..one piece..stick em in and toss the y pipe on. Fight the headers to change your oil? did you relocate the drain plug or something
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too the guys who installed there headers and didnt feel anything, sorry to that maybe you guys have monday built cars 
, but i sure could feel it when i installed mine, i pull so hard its not even funny, it almost throws you back in your seat, 
, maybe you need so shift point changes to feel it cuz my friend has stock shift points and i didnt notice a difference except sound then when i did mine it felt a hella difference like i said maybe its the shifting?
, but i sure could feel it when i installed mine, i pull so hard its not even funny, it almost throws you back in your seat, , maybe you need so shift point changes to feel it cuz my friend has stock shift points and i didnt notice a difference except sound then when i did mine it felt a hella difference like i said maybe its the shifting? 
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Originally Posted by Unstang
It is not just the price for me though. Ground clearence, install, and the fact I don't want to fight LT's every time I change my oil are all reasons for me going with the MACs.
Also, the install wasn't too hard at all... went pretty smooth and was done in a single day along with a full catback and a shift light.
And fight the LTs for an oil change?
I just changed my oil on Monday for the first time since my LTs went on, and it wasn't any different than changing the oil in my car previous to the LTs. Don't know what you're taking about... 
Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
And fight the LTs for an oil change? I just changed my oil on Monday for the first time since my LTs went on, and it wasn't any different than changing the oil in my car previous to the LTs. Don't know what you're taking about...
I just changed my oil on Monday for the first time since my LTs went on, and it wasn't any different than changing the oil in my car previous to the LTs. Don't know what you're taking about...
My buddy has long tubes on his '02 Z28, he always bitches about the headers when he changes the oil. I guess I really never asked why or changed his oil. My bad. 