Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

99 WS6 problems?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 05:59 PM
  #1  
Slowcar51190's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Boardman Ohio
Post 99 WS6 problems?

Hello i am sry i posted this before under my friends user-name.. i am not spaming i think he just put it in the wrong section..

The car is a 1999 Trans Am WS6, automatic, 30k miles, auto trans. Car has a pretty good sized cam (We don't know specs, it idles like an MS3) and 243 heads. Stock manifolds with one cat on the pass side, no cat on the driver side. Car is still untuned. I guess it's also relevent to know that this car was pretty ghetto rigged, he picked it up for under $5k as a dealer "back lot special" with a couple minor issues, so don't let the low miles make you think this is a pristine unmolested car, it isn't.

The car ran and drove ok since he's owned it. It always had a multiple misfire code since it is untuned. It was pretty slow, lost to a bolt on LS1 in a race but we figured it was due to the stock tune, which it may have been. Anyways, after that race he went to get the codes pulled again and found a knock sensor fault. He continued to drive the car, still ran and drove ok though. Friday night, he got gas, got back on the highway and about 3 miles down the road the car started acting up.

It doesn't want to idle, if you start it with the MAF plugged in it will run for 5 seconds then start to die. If you give it any gas at all it makes a really loud sucking noise and tries to die, with the MAF plugged in or unplugged. The intake is LOUD, like louder than the exhaust. If you try and drive the car, it struggles and will accelerate about 5mph per 30 seconds refusing to go above 1500rpm, while driving if you give it more than 10% throttle it tries to die. Oil pressure is fine. Car isn't knocking or anything bad like that. With the MAF unplugged, it will idle a lot better but still drives the same.

-We replaced the MAF, since it had a new MAF code. No difference at all.

-We then checked for fuel pressure at the rail. Immediately after shutting the car off, we checked the valve at the end of the rail. Nothing came out. At first I thought this was an issue, but someone said that is normal, that the car would lose all pressure as soon as it shut off, but I'm not sure. Anyways, we also checked all relays and fuses for the fuel pump, nothing was wrong there. Sometimes you can rev it up to 4-5k RPM if you ease into the throttle and it's in park, so I don't think it's the fuel pump?

-Next, I noticed his TPS was cracked, so I pulled the connector off. The car idled the same, and when you gave it throttle, it does the same exact thing, just makes a sucking noise and tries to die. Once it actually backfired through the intake too, if that means anything. Anyways, we swapped his sensor out for one from my car (2002 Z28). No difference, same issue.

-Next, we drained the tank thinking it was bad gas and put in a new fuel filter. The gas did look pretty dirty at first but it could have been coincidence. Ran 5 gal of fresh 93 through it and got a new fuel filter, no difference.

-Next I unplugged each coil pack one at a time. It made no difference, car still missed just as hard with no change in idle at all.

Anyone have any suggestions on this? Where should I check next? The intake being so loud is a big concern, could it be a clogged catalytic converter issue? Could a knock sensor have been working and throwing a code, but now is just 100% messed up? This is very frustrating to say the least. Thanks!!
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 06:20 PM
  #2  
Mazzenger's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 747
Likes: 4
From: Oklahoma
Default

Im sorry but why would your friend race his cammed car w/ one cat that hasn't been tuned?

Maybe pull the intake and check it out and pull the valve covers and check things out in there.

Some (not much) fuel should have come out of the fuel rail after you shut it off and purged it.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 06:29 PM
  #3  
therabidweasel's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 876
Likes: 2
From: NH/MA
Default

Does this have a Nick Williams or other tb with a blade stop adjustment screw? If it does, try opening the blade by an eighth of a turn or so and doing a tps relearn.

Untuned mine did similar things. I suppose it could also be the IAC motor...
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 06:40 PM
  #4  
Slowcar51190's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Boardman Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by therabidweasel
Does this have a Nick Williams or other tb with a blade stop adjustment screw? If it does, try opening the blade by an eighth of a turn or so and doing a tps relearn.

Untuned mine did similar things. I suppose it could also be the IAC motor...
no it doesn't.. i am out of ideas what it could be i pulled the codes yesterday.. and they were Mass air flow (which i replaced) Knock Sensor, it misfires (Prob with the cam it has and untune) and rear O2.. can i go off any of these?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:17 PM
  #5  
99M6Z28's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
From: The city of Hewitt in Central Texas
Default

Sounds almost like broken valve springs! I would pull the valve covers and inspect!
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:28 AM
  #6  
Slowcar51190's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Boardman Ohio
Default

Bump.. havent tryed the Valve spings yet.. thanks
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:27 PM
  #7  
99M6Z28's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
From: The city of Hewitt in Central Texas
Default

did you ever find the issue?
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 05:26 AM
  #8  
Pharcyde50's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Default

How about get a tune? If it has a big cam its gonna run like *** till its tuned.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE