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jdmlsx Oct 20, 2012 11:47 AM

Help needed :( LS1 won't fire for more than a second!
 
Hi there. i'm sorry to post this as my first thread but i have made lots of searchs and i did not find anything that can help me in my research so far. Well maybe i did find good informations but i still didnt try everything yet and as i am in Europe it is really hard to find parts for the LS engines out there so i prefer to explain the problem over there and may find a good answer :)

So i have got a Nissan 240sx with an LS1 engine. The conversion have been done last year with pretty much every new parts and now i have some kind of problem with it that i can not resolve over there :(
When i try to fire the car, the engine fires but dies after a second or so.
i have got NO Maf on it and i dont know what is the reason that it did not fire up properly. i've checked the fuel pump and it is ok!
ive checked relays, fuse, and it is ok as well.

the only difference i see is when i try to use a start spray the engine is running for 2 or 3 seconds before dying. !

is there someone that have any idea where i should start to look at ?
thank you guys!

siknss71 Oct 20, 2012 01:44 PM

I had same problem with my ls1 c5 combo the vats was turned off but not the column lock .inj would open to prime motor and shut down. Had tony from tuners inc help shut off column lock. Hope this helps

jdmlsx Oct 20, 2012 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by siknss71 (Post 16827103)
I had same problem with my ls1 c5 combo the card was turned off but not the column lock .inn would open to prime motor and shut down. Had tony from tuners inc help shut off column lock. Hope this helps

But my car is a nissan so i do not think there can be such a problem dont you think?

the strange thing is that when i use a starter spray it fires for 3 seconds and if not it is just one second and it dies :(

i really dont know what to do :(

bww3588 Oct 20, 2012 02:58 PM

Vats...

jdmlsx Oct 20, 2012 03:10 PM

But it works before.
any more information on what is that Vats? how to bypass it?
i'll make a search but please tell me more :)

jdmlsx Oct 20, 2012 03:35 PM

i do not have any key to turn the car on, just get ignition switch and then a start button.
i dont know if this can be a vats problem but i really need some help on that.
much appreciated :)

01ssreda4 Oct 20, 2012 10:51 PM

VATS isn't disabled.

siknss71 Oct 20, 2012 11:06 PM

It's vats or also column lock if c5 ecm you need some,one with a HP tuners to go in to the ecm and turn off the both windows

jdmlsx Oct 21, 2012 08:34 AM

and do you know if there is a way to bypass it without using the HPTuners.
because it will be very hard for me to find a way to get that tool over there! i'm not in the us :(

Paul Bell Oct 21, 2012 10:10 AM

jdm, welcome to LS1tech! Search will be your best friend around here....usually.

You have a unique situation as your engine is in a different car, The car won't have the VATS wiring the engine's PCM needs.

I'll assume the engine transplant included the proper LS1 PCM. The VATS function is still in it. Somehow, all this time, it's been disabled-certainly by the guy/shop that did the work.

It looks as if whatever was disabling it is has become undone.

Has any work been done to this car? Has the battery been disconnected for an extended period of time?

jdmlsx Oct 21, 2012 11:09 AM

Thanks for your answer Paul.
i've tried to search about it but i can not really find something that helps me so far. i really do not know how to proceed and i was not building that car. I just bought it from someone. Yes, the battery has been disconnected for around a month so maybe it should be my problem.
right now i do not know how can i bypass that problem without seeing it come again.

is there some way to bypass it without using the HPTuners stuff?




Originally Posted by Paul Bell (Post 16828982)
jdm, welcome to LS1tech! Search will be your best friend around here....usually.

You have a unique situation as your engine is in a different car, The car won't have the VATS wiring the engine's PCM needs.

I'll assume the engine transplant included the proper LS1 PCM. The VATS function is still in it. Somehow, all this time, it's been disabled-certainly by the guy/shop that did the work.

It looks as if whatever was disabling it is has become undone.

Has any work been done to this car? Has the battery been disconnected for an extended period of time?


Paul Bell Oct 21, 2012 05:31 PM

Yep, the VATS has re-set to active. You'll need to get it tuned out.

jdmlsx Oct 21, 2012 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Bell (Post 16830045)
Yep, the VATS has re-set to active. You'll need to get it tuned out.


sh** :(
is there a way to bypass it in another way than getting someone to remap it?
because finding someone that will be able to do it here will be a nightmare!

Paul Bell Oct 21, 2012 08:57 PM

Maybe you can backtrack to the people that did the swap, they certainly somehow had the VATS bypassed or tuned out.

Worst case, you could send the PCM to a mail order tune shop like pcmforless.com and have it tuned out. Some money and a week or so to get back.

jdmlsx Oct 22, 2012 01:21 AM

so there is really no way to bypass those systems just with a physical modification? like wires or something? this is hard :( just want my.car to start again ;((

groundczero Oct 22, 2012 11:13 AM

What car did the engine originally come out of? If it came out of a Corvette no must get tuned out.
If it came out of a F-body you could make a VATS bypass, but you would need to go through the wiring, which might be a pain in the but.

jdmlsx Oct 22, 2012 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by groundczero (Post 16832071)
What car did the engine originally come out of? If it came out of a Corvette no must get tuned out.
If it came out of a F-body you could make a VATS bypass, but you would need to go through the wiring, which might be a pain in the but.

LS1 come from a camaro i believe!

01ssreda4 Oct 22, 2012 11:22 PM

Run the PCMs serial number to verify it is an f-body computer.

79bluebu Nov 19, 2012 07:08 PM

did u find ur answer to ur question
 

Originally Posted by jdmlsx (Post 16831216)
so there is really no way to bypass those systems just with a physical modification? like wires or something? this is hard :( just want my.car to start again ;((

im lookin for the same answer i was wondering if u got an answer for the question u had asked about a physical way to do it im thinkin theres gotta be a way so let me know if u got an answer

jlcustomz Nov 20, 2012 12:13 AM

I'm a little late joining in on ths post.I did my F-body ls1 swap 10 years ago with a harness that was modified for me.(Can't remember who) It included a VATS bypass module in the harness. A shop that modifies harnesses should be able to supply one. Also a shop like TPIS.com can modify your ecm through the mail to remove items.


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