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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 03:09 AM
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I've been kicking around the idea of getting rid of my TD setup. My newborn daughter can't stand how loud it is. My goal is to move the sound from underneath the cabin to out the back. I bought two flowmaster dual 3" in and 4" out. I do not want to go with a catback hence why I bought two merge's. Anyways... My question is, will a 4" pipe fit over the axle?

I will be using the other merge opposite the way the first one. Simply flip it around and have the 4" in and the dual 3" out to the tips. No resonator in between but keep my bullets and weld them either before the merge or after the (second) merge..

If anybody has any suggestions as the placement of the mufflers, I'd be glad to hear those as well.

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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yes a 4" will fit , you will need the panhard bar relocation kit . I have a 3.5" mufflex and it fits.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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I have a little speculation about the relocation kit as it says it will allow up to 3 inch duals over the axle and out... I still ordered none the less trusting what you said.

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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I've got a 4" over the axle on my car. I used the panhard bar relocation kit and its a tight fit even with it. The over the axle pipe was all made with mandrel bends from Summit. I used a 60 at the end of the I, a 90 going over the rearend and back down, then another 90 turned to the side going into a magnaflow, another 90 coming out toward the back of the car with a 30 tacked on the end and cut at a slash. Then with dummy tips.
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Any consideration about doing 4" pipe to a 4" cutout before going over the axle or are you doing dual pipes over? Sorry. Just trying to better understand what you're going after. I guess if you already have the 4" mufflers, then you're probably set on doing 4" over the axle, huh? Any idea how much of a restriction the mufflers are going to make?

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AmnSF
I have a little speculation about the relocation kit as it says it will allow up to 3 inch duals over the axle and out... I still ordered none the less trusting what you said.
3 inch duals will fit without a panhard bar relocation. You will be fine
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No cutout... yet... Just trying to see if I can get a 4" pipe after the first flow master merge over the axle into the second merge after the axle..
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3 inch duals will fit without a panhard bar relocation. You will be fine
And try telling that to the guy who made my custom duals... He wouldn't dare try and get them over the axle... He swore on hs life it was impossible even though I've seen it done..
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How does the 4" Mufflex cat back fit on our cars ??

Does anybody have the 4" Mufflex with 4" Magna flow Race muffler on there car ?
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Originally Posted by AmnSF
And try telling that to the guy who made my custom duals... He wouldn't dare try and get them over the axle... He swore on hs life it was impossible even though I've seen it done..
You need the right guy, luckily around me there are 2 guys that have done it multiple times.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AmnSF
No cutout... yet... Just trying to see if I can get a 4" pipe after the first flow master merge over the axle into the second merge after the axle..
It may require a little clearancing but it will fit
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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I guess if all else fails I'll just tell him to run the current duals under the axle... the car will never be lowered anyways and my ground clearance already is terrible anyways.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 02:28 AM
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Under the axle duals are preferable to over the axle duals in my very strong opinion. I had 3 inch mandrel bent under the axle and had more clearance than I did with my y pipe setup. And this was with big 14x9x4 mufflers. The key is taking your time and making the right bends. Another added bonus is that if you ever want to track it, add flanges right after the mufflers. Unbolt the tailpipes, bolt on some turndowns and you have dumped duals.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blk98Vert
Under the axle duals are preferable to over the axle duals in my very strong opinion. I had 3 inch mandrel bent under the axle and had more clearance than I did with my y pipe setup. And this was with big 14x9x4 mufflers. The key is taking your time and making the right bends. Another added bonus is that if you ever want to track it, add flanges right after the mufflers. Unbolt the tailpipes, bolt on some turndowns and you have dumped duals.
Really? I bought the panhard relocation kit and everything... Are your duals under the axle on the passenger side (typically where people put them over the axle) or do they go under on the driver and passenger side?

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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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Anyways... My question is, will a 4" pipe fit over the axle?
Mufflex has been selling 4" systems that fit our cars for years. No "clearancing" required...

http://www.mufflex-performance.com/2...catback-system

Two "strong" opinions on how to run duals out the back around here. The right way and the under the axle way. Under is def cheapest (which is prob 99.9% of the reason it was ever conceived), looks the worst and limits your ability to lift the car - rearend will hit the system as it unloads.

Just throwin out another perspective.....either way, I hope your daughter enjoys it
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I am in Savannah Ga and there is a guy who can run 3" true duals over axle. He did it to mine and did a hell of a job. The thread is on here.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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