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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
From personal experience, you're not going to expand stainless. It'll look like it's just about to, and BAM it'll split.

Best thing to do is weld it if you're going stainless on stainless. When I did my Magnamouth conversion that's what I did. I cut the inlet/outlet off the magnapack and had it TIG'd to the I-Pipe
I guess I must be an exception to the rule. I've never had and SS exhaust tubing split, and I've had 3-3.5" tubing expanded probably 10 times. So I guess I've either been really lucky(I doubt it) or have an exhaust guy that really knows what he's doing with the tools he works with.
I do agree though, if your not comfortable having you exhaust guy expand SS, then butt welding the pipes together is always a good option.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wayland1985
I see. I figured I'd just see after you've lived with it a bit longer. I know your car isn't lowered, but does it eat up any more ground clearance?

The rasp can be pretty bad with the corsa I have. I loved the sound before, but after long tubes it's just a bit much.

Did you end up installing it yourself? Or did you have an exhaust shop do it? The muffler itself isn't expensive, so I may just give it a shot first.
I had a buddy weld it on for me at his shop. Pretty straight forward. The original pipe was from the GMMG system and I think its 2.75", as most catbacks, so it should be a pretty easy install.

My friend had a loudmouth, cut the resonator out of it and did a direct replacement with one of these magnaflow bullets after I did mine, sounds much better. He just used band clamps.

If you tuck it up in there you won't loose much clearance, like .5" as stated earlier, plus its fairly close to the axle so it should not hit anything, I think my crossmember and diff sits lower. I can try and take a picture tonight.

You should be able to get a new I-pipe if you ever change your mind down the road.

The only way I can describe is its like having high flow cats again from a sound perspective. It didn't really change the tone or sound much. Just lowered the volume a couple clicks and it kills the high frequency rasp. My buddy who installed it for me said he liked it better this way, so its subjective for sure, still sounds good no doubt.
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Originally Posted by wayland1985
I'm thinking if I tried the I-pipe muffler, I'd likely have a shop just bend a whole new I-pipe, rather than hacking up a $1000 cat back.

That way if I don't like it, I can put the original I pipe back, or maybe sell the whole cat back.
Unless you have a shop near you that does their own mandrel, any pipe you have bent will be a crush bend that will partially collapse the tubing cause a restriction, which Imo you don't want and is just a waste of money.
Imo, if you don't want modify you current exhaust then your better off just buying a new quieter cat-back exhaust, then sell your current cat-back.
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I think Dynomax and Madhammer will sell the I-pipes separately, incase you are looking for a stocker on a catback car.
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The Dynomax I-pipe is part #54064, $50..
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wl...t/model/camaro
The Dynomax over-axle pipe is part#53061, $68..
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wl...t/model/camaro
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
I guess I must be an exception to the rule. I've never had and SS exhaust tubing split, and I've had 3-3.5" tubing expanded probably 10 times. So I guess I've either been really lucky(I doubt it) or have an exhaust guy that really knows what he's doing with the tools he works with.
Damn... I guess they just don't know what they're doing over here at all then. They won't even attempt it. I asked if properly annealing it would help and they said it's too hit and miss... 4 different shops.

So no, you're not lucky, although I did enjoy the sarcasm. Your guy is simply good at his craft.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
I had a buddy weld it on for me at his shop. Pretty straight forward. The original pipe was from the GMMG system and I think its 2.75", as most catbacks, so it should be a pretty easy install.

My friend had a loudmouth, cut the resonator out of it and did a direct replacement with one of these magnaflow bullets after I did mine, sounds much better. He just used band clamps.

If you tuck it up in there you won't loose much clearance, like .5" as stated earlier, plus its fairly close to the axle so it should not hit anything, I think my crossmember and diff sits lower. I can try and take a picture tonight.

You should be able to get a new I-pipe if you ever change your mind down the road.

The only way I can describe is its like having high flow cats again from a sound perspective. It didn't really change the tone or sound much. Just lowered the volume a couple clicks and it kills the high frequency rasp. My buddy who installed it for me said he liked it better this way, so its subjective for sure, still sounds good no doubt.
I liked the way yours sounded when I heard it at slowhawks open house (this is Chris's cousin). I wish I peeked underneath to get a good look at the undercarriage.

Do you feel like there was any loss of power?
Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Unless you have a shop near you that does their own mandrel, any pipe you have bent will be a crush bend that will partially collapse the tubing cause a restriction, which Imo you don't want and is just a waste of money.
Imo, if you don't want modify you current exhaust then your better off just buying a new quieter cat-back exhaust, then sell your current cat-back.
There's a few shops in the area, and some I think have mandrel bending. I'd have to double check. One even gave me a decent quote for a full true dual custom setup, but I'm curious about how they'd route the pipes. The Hooker setup seems like a good starting point, but they're not shipping for a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by wayland1985
I liked the way yours sounded when I heard it at slowhawks open house (this is Chris's cousin). I wish I peeked underneath to get a good look at the undercarriage.

Do you feel like there was any loss of power?
Ahh ok, good to hear from you.
(I forgot to take picture last night...try again)

I don't think I lost any power, its still a straight through pipe, so nothing is slowing the flow down.

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Old Jul 8, 2015 | 08:12 AM
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Sorry about the quality, but you get the idea.
I have a ball flange after the merge so technically if you did a v-band or just welded up the whole thing it could be a little bit tighter.

It hangs about the same as the rest of the exhaust, even roughly with the collectors. I'm at stock ride height and haven't hit anything with this setup. I am considering a tiny bit of drop though. So far so good.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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Thought of another question: did it lower the noise on the interior at all?
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wayland1985
Thought of another question: did it lower the noise on the interior at all?
For sure, I can hear my rear end whine even more now

Yeah it does quiet everything up a little bit and kills the drone.
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