shorty headers worth it??
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From: The South
Originally Posted by Mooobunnny
Maybe we saw a different horsepower tv, but the one I saw gained 14rwhp from the addition of shorty headers....... a lot more than I expected, but still what they stated as the gains.
Yeah, I got my converter to go with the shift kit I had planned I'll bet they changed the whole exhaust at the time and "got 14rwhp from shorties" or something stupid like that Just depends on where you want to take the car along with your emissions. If it is really strict I would go with shorties. With the cam you probably would see a few extra hp on the dyno, and more of a gain at the track.
Some people just don't realize, a dyno is strickly to help in tune. Drag strip is where you see your car's true potential as a dyno can't take into affect the volumn of air the car will be breathing in at those speeds.
Something off topic but my ASP underdrive pulley. I saw zero gain on the dyno. However at the track it pulled .15 tenths off my 1/4 time.
I would say you will see better gains at the track with the shorties over the stock manifolds, even for 01/02 models. However it's not going to be as great as long tubes but still a gain nevertheless.
Some people just don't realize, a dyno is strickly to help in tune. Drag strip is where you see your car's true potential as a dyno can't take into affect the volumn of air the car will be breathing in at those speeds.
Something off topic but my ASP underdrive pulley. I saw zero gain on the dyno. However at the track it pulled .15 tenths off my 1/4 time.
I would say you will see better gains at the track with the shorties over the stock manifolds, even for 01/02 models. However it's not going to be as great as long tubes but still a gain nevertheless.
On The Tree
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From: state college PA
Thank god somebody else wasted their money on 
edelbroch shorties on my car. I believe they were actually hurting the car. Put a set a hooker lt's,ory, and noticed a big difference. Almost 5mph in the qtr with those and 4.10 with most of the gain from the headers.
edelbroch shorties on my car. I believe they were actually hurting the car. Put a set a hooker lt's,ory, and noticed a big difference. Almost 5mph in the qtr with those and 4.10 with most of the gain from the headers. 
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From: Fairfield, CA
Originally Posted by Raben
Some people just don't realize, a dyno is strickly to help in tune. Drag strip is where you see your car's true potential as a dyno can't take into affect the volumn of air the car will be breathing in at those speeds.
My performance measurement is at the track which is where you'll see real world gains. I don't want my car to be a dyno car, I want it to be a street/strip car. When you run faster than your personal best at the track, it's a great feeling. I know a lot of you know what I am talking about. Do you really get that feeling if your car dynoes 5 hp more, NO!!! The dyno is for bragging and shouldn't be your reason for choosing one mod over another.
You should choose a mod based on research and what is the best path for your car. How many times have you read a thread about someone regretting a part they bought? Our cars are expensive enough to modify, and buying the same part over and over again until you find the right one just makes it too expensive. Do as much research as you can and don't listen to anyone telling you "don't buy this [XXXXX] because I didn't see any gains on the dyno." Hope this helps.
Nick
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From: The South
Originally Posted by 2ndGenWs6Owner
That is why I think I noticed a gain in performance. Many people claim that shorties are worth nothing on the dyno, and some morons claim they lose hp. But I don't need a dyno to make myself feel good about my car. It's a number that's subjective. One dyno will read different from another.
My performance measurement is at the track which is where you'll see real world gains. I don't want my car to be a dyno car, I want it to be a street/strip car. When you run faster than your personal best at the track, it's a great feeling. I know a lot of you know what I am talking about. Do you really get that feeling if your car dynoes 5 hp more, NO!!! The dyno is for bragging and shouldn't be your reason for choosing one mod over another.
You should choose a mod based on research and what is the best path for your car. How many times have you read a thread about someone regretting a part they bought? Our cars are expensive enough to modify, and buying the same part over and over again until you find the right one just makes it too expensive. Do as much research as you can and don't listen to anyone telling you "don't buy this [XXXXX] because I didn't see any gains on the dyno." Hope this helps.
Nick
My performance measurement is at the track which is where you'll see real world gains. I don't want my car to be a dyno car, I want it to be a street/strip car. When you run faster than your personal best at the track, it's a great feeling. I know a lot of you know what I am talking about. Do you really get that feeling if your car dynoes 5 hp more, NO!!! The dyno is for bragging and shouldn't be your reason for choosing one mod over another.
You should choose a mod based on research and what is the best path for your car. How many times have you read a thread about someone regretting a part they bought? Our cars are expensive enough to modify, and buying the same part over and over again until you find the right one just makes it too expensive. Do as much research as you can and don't listen to anyone telling you "don't buy this [XXXXX] because I didn't see any gains on the dyno." Hope this helps.
Nick
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