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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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how deep is the oil pan, might have to clear the crank
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Wouldn't it be a problem putting it back in though? That is why I took mine out when I replaced it.
putting what back in? replacing what? the oil pan? i plan on putting the pan back before i put the tranny back in.

so can i get the pan out and back in with the tranny/flywheel/bellhousing removed or what?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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Pan....(dots are to allow me to get past the term limit)
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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hey guys, i got my slave cylinder out. now how can i tell if its updated or not??

there doesnt seem to be a part number on it, only some wierd markings and the number 13. there is also what looks like a production date marking but im not sure. its 2 circles, one inside the other, between the circles is a bunch of dots, and in the center is the number 01. maby it is maby it isnt?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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has it been touched or is it the factory clutch?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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its not factory, and my mom was the one who went and bought the clutch/slave, so i dont know if its updated or not. she bought it from a clutch place called triangle clutch builders. we got it in april. they might have had a non-updated clutch on the shelf and just sold it to my mom to get rid of it. i dont know what the deal is with it.

anybody have any idea on how to identify the updated slave vs. nonupdated???
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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ttt for me, there is a thread in the manual transmission section with a picture of my slave cylinder if you have any idea bout it.

i've been researching and figured out that there is about 2" of dipstick tube still in the motor, maby i can lower the oilpan enough to yank it out thru the inside? however long it is from the top shoulder on the dipstick tube to the bottom (im guessing 2") is whats still in the block.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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This is probably a dumb question, but why would it possible to get the broken tube piece out from underneath but not by pulling it up from the top? Unbent hanger or something, if it's hard to reach (unless that scratching something is a concern), get the tip down under the bottom of the tube... If it went in from the top originally, I'd think it should be possible to get it out the same way unless it locks into place in some tricky way... Just curious; zero practical experience!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:02 AM
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i thought about doing somthing similar, cutting a piece of hard *** tool steel to hook onto it from the inside, but the problem is the piece is wedged in there somthing REDICULOUS. we were able to grab onto a bit of the lip (which was hanging out) with some small channel-locks and yank the **** out of it. and we got nothing but a metal shaving. i dont know what the deal is, its stuck pretty hardcore.
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try to put some oil around the edges to help free it up, is the oring still in the oil pan? i bet thats waht is holding it up, spray some wd40 in there
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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i it was broken off right at the o-ring, level with the outside of the block. i got the o-ring out, and the only part left is what is below it.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
i thought about doing somthing similar, cutting a piece of hard *** tool steel to hook onto it from the inside, but the problem is the piece is wedged in there somthing REDICULOUS. we were able to grab onto a bit of the lip (which was hanging out) with some small channel-locks and yank the **** out of it. and we got nothing but a metal shaving. i dont know what the deal is, its stuck pretty hardcore.
Odd. What about getting inside it with a small blade and cutting the tube down its length? Maybe that could release whatever tension is keeping it stuck there.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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well the problem lies in that the tube is TINY, anything strong enough to cut it would be too big to fit. plus you can barley get even your arm up between the k-member and the opening in the block where the tube goes in.

we have some ease-outs we are going to try now. i'm going to get one started, then see if i can spin it in its hole, then im going to penetrating oil the **** out of and spin it a bunch of times, then try to keep spinning/pulling out. i'm guessing its just corroded to hell and needs to be free'd up. i'll take the oilpan loose if that fails and seewhere i'm at.

turns out that there is about 2" left in the motor, maby i can lower the oilpan enough. i have to find out now if the block is step machined or not, because it might not be able to slide thru into the oilpan.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:07 AM
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Ah, darn. (I guess size does matter! )

Do post what ends up working, I'll be wondering how this turns out...
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:20 AM
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If the end of the tube in the block is stuck in the block nd hasnt dropped into the pan, you migh be able to remove it w/o dropping the pan. If you have room, try to thread a large easy out into the end of the tube, and then back it out like it was a broken bolt. Not sure if you have the room for that or not, but if you do it will save you lots of time, $ and effort. Then its a matter of cleaning out the oil, i.e. change oil & filter a couple times.

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*Edit* didnt read your post right above, looks like you already got the easy-out idea!
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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got her out today boys, i put the ease out in place, and it bit quite well because the lip was pretty chewed up from pulling on it so much. i spun it in the hole a bunch of times with a 1/4" drive ratchet, it spun pretty feely too! i then kept spinning and pulling more and more and it just popped out, no problem.

i dont know HOW THE HELL it was stuck so good in the first place.

i also got slide hammer from autozone as well as the pilot bearing tool for it, and popped that bad boy out. im going to reassemble the trans tomorrow, then change my motor mounts out, then put my exhaust on.

thanx for boosting my spirits on this and responding to my posts guys!
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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update: here is how i'm feeling about my dipstick tube.

(this is a picture of the ease-out stuck in the tube)
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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I've seen this before - unfortunately.. We loosened the oil pan and kind of 'rattled'(the pan) it in between the K-member and motor. To get the broken piece to the bottom. Then fished the broken piece of dip-stick out through the oil drain plug, with a magnet. It wasn't easy...

I didn't read all the posts, so some or all of this may not help - but here it is anyway.

Good luck.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lane
I've seen this before - unfortunately.. We loosened the oil pan and kind of 'rattled'(the pan) it in between the K-member and motor. To get the broken piece to the bottom. Then fished the broken piece of dip-stick out through the oil drain plug, with a magnet. It wasn't easy...

I didn't read all the posts, so some or all of this may not help - but here it is anyway.

Good luck.
my uncle got a bore-scope (sp?) to stick inthe oilpan hole and see it, but it wouldnt fit. i doubt the piece would have made it thru the oilpan hole anyway. we got it out already, just look at post #37
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