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Sorry bud... getting that oval muffler in there would call for too much floor banging.
I've had the Oval XR-1s and they're pretty beefy mufflers. Checkout the webshots in my sig.
I've had the Oval XR-1s and they're pretty beefy mufflers. Checkout the webshots in my sig.
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What's the width/thickness of the oval Borla? I don't remember why now but I thought about going that route 3 years ago , I'm thinking I was going to slip it between the d/s and the floorpan but went with the round Borla instead.
I never did get the round Borla in position where I wanted it, I miscalculated the angles on the pipe cuts and ended up with a fairly low riding muffler (in a BF Hurry when I did it). Luckily, the only time it drags is in extreme road situations or when the car is loaded down.
Could be the oval XR-1 tucks in pretty good sideways? I don't know, but one thing is for sure: almost any modification to to a LM is going to be an improvement as far as irritating rasp goes - at least if you have an A4.
I never did get the round Borla in position where I wanted it, I miscalculated the angles on the pipe cuts and ended up with a fairly low riding muffler (in a BF Hurry when I did it). Luckily, the only time it drags is in extreme road situations or when the car is loaded down.
Could be the oval XR-1 tucks in pretty good sideways? I don't know, but one thing is for sure: almost any modification to to a LM is going to be an improvement as far as irritating rasp goes - at least if you have an A4.
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Originally Posted by gwj
What's the width/thickness of the oval Borla? I don't remember why now but I thought about going that route 3 years ago , I'm thinking I was going to slip it between the d/s and the floorpan but went with the round Borla instead.
I never did get the round Borla in position where I wanted it, I miscalculated the angles on the pipe cuts and ended up with a fairly low riding muffler (in a BF Hurry when I did it). Luckily, the only time it drags is in extreme road situations or when the car is loaded down.
Could be the oval XR-1 tucks in pretty good sideways? I don't know, but one thing is for sure: almost any modification to to a LM is going to be an improvement as far as irritating rasp goes - at least if you have an A4.
I never did get the round Borla in position where I wanted it, I miscalculated the angles on the pipe cuts and ended up with a fairly low riding muffler (in a BF Hurry when I did it). Luckily, the only time it drags is in extreme road situations or when the car is loaded down.
Could be the oval XR-1 tucks in pretty good sideways? I don't know, but one thing is for sure: almost any modification to to a LM is going to be an improvement as far as irritating rasp goes - at least if you have an A4.
Case Shape - Oval
Case Length (in) - 12.000
Overall Length (in) - 17.000
Thickness (in) - 4.500
Width (in) - 7.850
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Originally Posted by Z28Venom
Here are the dimensions of the oval xr-1. Far to big to attempt installing into the i-pipe.
Case Shape - Oval
Case Length (in) - 12.000
Overall Length (in) - 17.000
Thickness (in) - 4.500
Width (in) - 7.850
Case Shape - Oval
Case Length (in) - 12.000
Overall Length (in) - 17.000
Thickness (in) - 4.500
Width (in) - 7.850
The 40944 is:
Case Shape - Oval
Case Length (in) - 16.000
Overall Length (in) - 21.000
Thickness (in) - 4.500
Width (in) - 7.875
I'm going to give it a shot. I spent a few hours under the car right after I posted this, and I think I can get it in there and have at 0.5" clearance from the body/DS. In this position, I would end up loosing about 0.25" ground clearance.
For ***** and giggles, I slip fit the muffler on while I had her in the air - sounds BAD ***!
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I need to post the pics, but just to let you guys know, it works with the oval muffler. It took a little massaging on the LM, but we were able to get the oval muffler in with no loss of ground clearance, and no banging on the body/DS.
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shot from front of car looking back:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02526.JPG)
shot from front of car looking back zoomed in:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02527.JPG)
right rear:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02528.JPG)
left rear:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02529.JPG)
jet hot Y and DSL clearance (from right side):
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02531.JPG)
muffler to right rear seat clearance 1:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02532.JPG)
muffler to right rear seat clearance 2:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02533.JPG)
muffler to right front seat clearance:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02534.JPG)
rear shot 1:
![](http://68.201.223.75/borla%20mouth\DSC02536.JPG)
rear shot 2:
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rear shot 3:
shot from front of car looking back zoomed in:
right rear:
left rear:
jet hot Y and DSL clearance (from right side):
muffler to right rear seat clearance 1:
muffler to right rear seat clearance 2:
muffler to right front seat clearance:
rear shot 1:
rear shot 2:
rear shot 3:
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it took a while to find the right spot for the muffler. I'm guessing the 40085 would have been cake. FWIW, if you are not planning on welding your exhuast together, invest in the band clamps. U bolts are leaking pieces of garbage that will make it next to impossible to get your plumbing seperated.
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Originally Posted by dug
How does it sound?
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I'm working on a video clip right now that will have sound clips of various combos. I'll post it later today or tomorrow.
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I have the "Borla XR-1 Round Sportsman Racing Mufflers" #40086, part number in Jegs is 157-40086. Its the 3-1/2" round muffler. I was going to get a 3-1/2" cut-out before it but there was no room. Had to bang the floorboards in a little, other than that the round 3" (40085) will fit fine from what I've heard/seen.
It looks like my 3-1/2" fits alot better, no offense:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997310bKkwgf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997289IAwBUM
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Craig.
It looks like my 3-1/2" fits alot better, no offense:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997310bKkwgf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997289IAwBUM
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Craig.
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Looks like it fits in there pretty well to me! Do you mind if I add your pictures to www.ls1sounds.com? I'd also like to host your videos if you wouldn't mind sending them to me.
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Originally Posted by LS1 Sounds
Looks like it fits in there pretty well to me! Do you mind if I add your pictures to www.ls1sounds.com? I'd also like to host your videos if you wouldn't mind sending them to me. ![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
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Peace,
Craig.
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Originally Posted by CRAGER
I have the "Borla XR-1 Round Sportsman Racing Mufflers" #40086, part number in Jegs is 157-40086. Its the 3-1/2" round muffler. I was going to get a 3-1/2" cut-out before it but there was no room. Had to bang the floorboards in a little, other than that the round 3" (40085) will fit fine from what I've heard/seen.
It looks like my 3-1/2" fits alot better, no offense:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997310bKkwgf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997289IAwBUM
Peace,
Craig.
It looks like my 3-1/2" fits alot better, no offense:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997310bKkwgf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...64997289IAwBUM
Peace,
Craig.
Doenst matter though. Either way they turned out to be a nice sounding exhaust.
Originally Posted by LS1 Sounds
Looks like it fits in there pretty well to me! Do you mind if I add your pictures to www.ls1sounds.com? I'd also like to host your videos if you wouldn't mind sending them to me. ![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
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Not sure who you were refering to, but I don't mind if you post the pics. I will get some better sound clips. The original ones I took came out like *** from where I had the camera. I should have the video done in a few days. PM me the email address and I'll send it over.
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Originally Posted by CRAGER
Sure, sounds good to me. Where should I send the vids to?