3" Catback vs. TD's
Originally Posted by firechicken2k
I'm sorry.
The discussion is about true duals.
Not tru-duals.
The discussion is about true duals.
Not tru-duals.
Originally Posted by Visceral
So you removed the cats? I could see that getting you 10/10...
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
And what do you base this on? Duals shine in power under the curve. Do you have data to support your opinion? Besides that, they sound SO much better. (IMO, and many others, though everyone is different)
I have Hooker Londtubes ORY magnaflow cat-back a lid with a cam 226/226 578/578/ 114lsa and made 378hp /380tq and some of the cars I have seen with bigger cams and TD's are only making 380-390ish hp so If someone with a G5X3 cam and TD'S is in the 380-390 range where is the huge gain everyone talks about..... and as far as testing one againt the other true comparisons are hard to achieve since all dynos are not the same and conditions at the same dyno change run to run... I think in my opinion td's are not worth the hassle unless you go all the way out the back..
Originally Posted by mellowyellow02
yea like you said under the curve but top power wont be any different a few hp give or take.
I have Hooker Londtubes ORY magnaflow cat-back a lid with a cam 226/226 578/578/ 114lsa and made 378hp /380tq and some of the cars I have seen with bigger cams and TD's are only making 380-390ish hp so If someone with a G5X3 cam and TD'S is in the 380-390 range where is the huge gain everyone talks about..... and as far as testing one againt the other true comparisons are hard to achieve since all dynos are not the same and conditions at the same dyno change run to run... I think in my opinion td's are not worth the hassle unless you go all the way out the back..
I have Hooker Londtubes ORY magnaflow cat-back a lid with a cam 226/226 578/578/ 114lsa and made 378hp /380tq and some of the cars I have seen with bigger cams and TD's are only making 380-390ish hp so If someone with a G5X3 cam and TD'S is in the 380-390 range where is the huge gain everyone talks about..... and as far as testing one againt the other true comparisons are hard to achieve since all dynos are not the same and conditions at the same dyno change run to run... I think in my opinion td's are not worth the hassle unless you go all the way out the back..
Originally Posted by mrr23
well i can agree about going all the way out the back part. but here's same car with only change being the exhaust borla vs bassani tru-dual on my wife's 99 formula. gain all the way throughout the rpm range.
Also remember when comparing the Borla dyno to the Tru-Duals, the Tru Duals replaced the stock Y pipe... so perhaps a aftermarket Y+the Borla might have done very differently than the stock+borla.
Here is the difference a Y-pipe can make (your results WILL vary):
Here is the difference a Y-pipe can make (your results WILL vary):
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow02
....but 300 for good cat-back vs 900 for TD's is expensive.
And it was already mentioned that you don't have to buy a Y-pipe. If you compare true duals (even out the back) they are comparable in price to a Y-pipe and any of the expensive cat-backs.
Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Whoa. $300 for a good cat-back? That isn't a very big selection. What true duals cost $900? If you don't take them out the back it's only $450-$550. And it was already mentioned that you don't have to buy a Y-pipe. If you compare true duals (even out the back) they are comparable in price to a Y-pipe and any of the expensive cat-backs.
And it was already mentioned that you don't have to buy a Y-pipe. If you compare true duals (even out the back) they are comparable in price to a Y-pipe and any of the expensive cat-backs.LS1 Tech Stories
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow02
the true dauls that mrr23 is talking about (bassani) and $300 for a good used cat-back which can be had all the time on here..
There are combinations where either the duals or the Y-pipe setup could be cheaper.
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow02
True duels are overrated they make no more power than a cat back.. my vote magnaflow....
Originally Posted by jrp
draw your own conclusions
torquer overlay - 241 pacesetters, ls6, xpipe vs 853 pacesetters, ls6, ypipe with borla and pulley
Chads (Black02SS) car:
Duals vs Hooker
torquer overlay - 241 pacesetters, ls6, xpipe vs 853 pacesetters, ls6, ypipe with borla and pulley
Chads (Black02SS) car:
Duals vs Hooker
Back to the original post.
Hughes, if you're worried about interior drone with true duals, just don't get the mainstream mufflers most people get like 12" Bullets and Twisters. Since you're going with a custom setup, I suggest 30" Sweet Thunders and dump that at the axle. The longer the muffler, the less noise, especially interior, and 30" Sweet Thunders should do the trick well. Plus you won't lose any more ground clearance than with a regular Bullet/Twister setup like mine. If this would still be too loud, you can always get some Dynatech cones and slip those in after the collectors. With the aftermarket the way it is nowdays, you can make 3" dumped true duals about as quiet as an average catback.
Jason
Hughes, if you're worried about interior drone with true duals, just don't get the mainstream mufflers most people get like 12" Bullets and Twisters. Since you're going with a custom setup, I suggest 30" Sweet Thunders and dump that at the axle. The longer the muffler, the less noise, especially interior, and 30" Sweet Thunders should do the trick well. Plus you won't lose any more ground clearance than with a regular Bullet/Twister setup like mine. If this would still be too loud, you can always get some Dynatech cones and slip those in after the collectors. With the aftermarket the way it is nowdays, you can make 3" dumped true duals about as quiet as an average catback.
Jason
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Originally Posted by Camaro99SS
Back to the original post.
Hughes, if you're worried about interior drone with true duals, just don't get the mainstream mufflers most people get like 12" Bullets and Twisters. Since you're going with a custom setup, I suggest 30" Sweet Thunders and dump that at the axle. The longer the muffler, the less noise, especially interior, and 30" Sweet Thunders should do the trick well. Plus you won't lose any more ground clearance than with a regular Bullet/Twister setup like mine. If this would still be too loud, you can always get some Dynatech cones and slip those in after the collectors. With the aftermarket the way it is nowdays, you can make 3" dumped true duals about as quiet as an average catback.
Jason
Hughes, if you're worried about interior drone with true duals, just don't get the mainstream mufflers most people get like 12" Bullets and Twisters. Since you're going with a custom setup, I suggest 30" Sweet Thunders and dump that at the axle. The longer the muffler, the less noise, especially interior, and 30" Sweet Thunders should do the trick well. Plus you won't lose any more ground clearance than with a regular Bullet/Twister setup like mine. If this would still be too loud, you can always get some Dynatech cones and slip those in after the collectors. With the aftermarket the way it is nowdays, you can make 3" dumped true duals about as quiet as an average catback.
Jason
