View Poll Results: which is louder?
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which is louder: cutout, duals
Originally Posted by GT Griller
I had ORY and cut-out....and now have tru duals with h-pipe and 1-chamber flows....i think the cutout was louder...but it sounded like ***....my duals sound ******* awesome...theres a clip in my sig with my car thru an open cut out.
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Why are people voting for a cutout? The only way a cutout is going to be about as loud as true duals with bullets is if it's on a Loudmouth I or Loudmouth II system. Putting a cutout on a real muffled system like Corsa, Borla, Magnaflow, Hooker and the like can't be as loud as TD's with bullets. Cutouts aren't 100% efficient and significant amounts of exhaust gas and sound waves still travel through the muffler. I have an open cutout on my Corsa system and it's definitely loud, but it's not as loud as TD's with bullets. Not even close.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
Why are people voting for a cutout? The only way a cutout is going to be about as loud as true duals with bullets is if it's on a Loudmouth I or Loudmouth II system. Putting a cutout on a real muffled system like Corsa, Borla, Magnaflow, Hooker and the like can't be as loud as TD's with bullets. Cutouts aren't 100% efficient and significant amounts of exhaust gas and sound waves still travel through the muffler. I have an open cutout on my Corsa system and it's definitely loud, but it's not as loud as TD's with bullets. Not even close.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
Why are people voting for a cutout? The only way a cutout is going to be about as loud as true duals with bullets is if it's on a Loudmouth I or Loudmouth II system. Putting a cutout on a real muffled system like Corsa, Borla, Magnaflow, Hooker and the like can't be as loud as TD's with bullets. Cutouts aren't 100% efficient and significant amounts of exhaust gas and sound waves still travel through the muffler. I have an open cutout on my Corsa system and it's definitely loud, but it's not as loud as TD's with bullets. Not even close.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
For you guys voting for cutout, you either
a.) Have never heard either and are guessing
-or-
b.) You've never had anyone else drive your car with you standing on the outside and you're judging loudness by what you hear from the interior (a big mistake)
A cutout is dumped under your car with no turndown, so it may SEEM louder than duals ran out the back, or even dumps since they have turndowns and better push the exhaust away from the car causing less vibration and interior noise. Because you're getting so much vibration from the cutout, it gives you a false sense of overall loudness, but I can PROMISE you a cutout before a real muffler will never be as loud as true duals with DYNOMAX bullets. It's just not possible because cutouts aren't even close to 100% efficient. Realistically, they probably release a little more than half the sound waves and exhaust gases. A LOT of exhaust and sound waves still pass through the muffler.
i have 2.5 duals with longtubes with an H, 24 inch glasspacks, and over the axle. its alot better sounding and alot louder then most free flowing catbacks, i did a fly by to my friend and he said "i think i went deaf"
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Dual cutouts heres mine, this is pretty loud setup and still has a low tone when the cutouts are closed.
LT's w/y-pipe
cats...
Dual cutouts on a y-pipe
dual dual muffler with CME
LT's w/y-pipe
cats...
Dual cutouts on a y-pipe
dual dual muffler with CME
Last edited by camcamaro1991; Sep 24, 2009 at 05:29 PM.
center mount exhaust... like on the vettes and some people do it on the camaros.. usually SS..
as for the loudness... i vote xpipe with bullets... my 1 chambers are louder than most..
either way, cutout sounds like ****.... xpipe with anything but bullets is sex...
as for the loudness... i vote xpipe with bullets... my 1 chambers are louder than most..
either way, cutout sounds like ****.... xpipe with anything but bullets is sex...
........
unless you put some money in your exhaust...
throwing a 30 dollar cutout on your exhaust is cheap and easy.. and you get what you payfor... not a very good sound...
spend a few hundred on your exhaust (still flows good) and you get what you pay for... sex...
if you have heard cutouts and an xpipe/1 chambers or same in person.. there is NO comparison in the sound QUALITY... maybe how loud it is... but means nothing if it sounds shitty..
unless you put some money in your exhaust...
throwing a 30 dollar cutout on your exhaust is cheap and easy.. and you get what you payfor... not a very good sound...
spend a few hundred on your exhaust (still flows good) and you get what you pay for... sex...
if you have heard cutouts and an xpipe/1 chambers or same in person.. there is NO comparison in the sound QUALITY... maybe how loud it is... but means nothing if it sounds shitty..
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I really like my TDs.
I don't know about Loudness, but I have never heard a better sounding street car (aside from a few big blocks).
You won't be unhappy with TDs. However, I don't know if it is worth the headaches or the $$$. I had to have it done re-done after the 9". It also prevented me from going with the BMR extreme torque arm (had to go with the smaller adjustable one).
At the end of the day, I would prefer to have spent that $$$ on a cam. I enjoy my cam more than I ever did TDs w/ bolt-ons.
EDIT: And as far as the loudness factor.... TDs w/ LT headers, bullets, and a decent sized cam is more than loud enough to satisfy even the most immature of 16 year olds. I don't take it on dates anymore. Can't even carry on a conversation.
I don't know about Loudness, but I have never heard a better sounding street car (aside from a few big blocks).
You won't be unhappy with TDs. However, I don't know if it is worth the headaches or the $$$. I had to have it done re-done after the 9". It also prevented me from going with the BMR extreme torque arm (had to go with the smaller adjustable one).
At the end of the day, I would prefer to have spent that $$$ on a cam. I enjoy my cam more than I ever did TDs w/ bolt-ons.
EDIT: And as far as the loudness factor.... TDs w/ LT headers, bullets, and a decent sized cam is more than loud enough to satisfy even the most immature of 16 year olds. I don't take it on dates anymore. Can't even carry on a conversation.
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Not to mention, you loose all your low end torque.