O2s on long tubes
O2s on long tubes i am going to go with the pacesetter headers. is there a header that has holes for the o2s and if so can you install them with out a tune. with out reinstalling the O2 sensors would sims keep me from having to get a tune all i am going to have is a lid then longtubes with the TSP duals thanks. i hope it was not to confusing.
pacesetters have holes for the 02's, yes you can install them with out a tune, stimms are worthless, tune the rear o2's out and put 80 bucks towards your tune. Your car will run better with one anyway.
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I agree, the simms arn't worth it, but I'm borrowing some currently until I get a tune, the only thing they are good for is too eliminate the SES light. FYI, you will eventually need a tune; your A/F mixture will be very rich after the install. I don't have the money right now to get a tune, and can tell performance wise it needs one, so I'm trying not to drive it as much.
FWIW I'm driving mine untuned, and it drives fine (m6 if that makes a difference) gas mileage hasn't suffered (still get 19mpg) unfortunately my tuning options are limited here, it's either mail order, or use an individual, or do it myself (trying to decide what one would be better)
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I've heard of some cars that can get lt's without a tune, and they can be just fine afterwards (but usually, most people opt for a tune to try and get as much as possible out of their cars after the tune). On the other hand, my car's catts were bad before the install, which could be the very reason that the A/F mixture is even more off after the install. But it shouldn't hurt your car if you don't get a tune, it can only help it.
