do headers make a noticable difference in performance?
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From: houston
do headers make a noticable difference in performance? im looking at the flp set up for my car. Everyone knows long tubes make your car louder, but what should i expect performance wise?
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From: Brentwood, Ca
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Let me help you out a little...we're going to need the mods to your car in order to evaluate your hp gains. List'em fast... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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From: Native Texan
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? No don't buy headers! They are a waste! No one really buys them it is all a hoax. All the dyno tests are fake. Instead buy a big stereo and get a fat girlfriend. This way you will never have a chance beating me!
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you can borrow my girlfriend. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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you can borrow my girlfriend. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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From: Chicago Land
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? If you have the money definately buy the FLPs. There is definately a big difference in torque and HP plus anything done internally to the engine will be better with the headers.
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From: McChord AFB WA
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Love my FLPs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
They will really start to shine once you put a cam and heads in your car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
They will really start to shine once you put a cam and heads in your car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Only if 20 RWHP is noticable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Writing the check hurts a little, but everything after that is soooo sweet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? I really like my TTS's. Only gained 18rwhp (w/cats), so it's not a bang for the buck mod, but I knew that before buying them.
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From: houston
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? ok well thanks for the sarcasism but i realize that headers make a good difference. iom not an idiot. let me re-phrase the question for you... Is it worth the money ($1200) or are there other things that would help more for the same 1200 -- perhaps a 3200 stall converter instead..
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Bad,
It depends on what mods you have when you install the headers. If you have heads or do heads at the same time as the headers then great the headers will get you the extra HPs, if not you won't get that much out of just headers. If you don't have hi flow heads the converter will definitely yeild more gain. Do them both and really <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
It depends on what mods you have when you install the headers. If you have heads or do heads at the same time as the headers then great the headers will get you the extra HPs, if not you won't get that much out of just headers. If you don't have hi flow heads the converter will definitely yeild more gain. Do them both and really <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? get Mac's... they flow just as well (or almost as well) as anything else and can be had for $350 with y pipe and o2 sims included (just saw this in classifides).
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Well I can give you some facts based on my experience on my 01 SS. With all the bolt-ons and free mods except headers, I gained 4/10 in the quarter with the addition of the ST3500 converter. Then my next mod was the addition of the FLP headers and I picked up another 3/10. All of this was with the stock heads and cam.
In good air (-1500 DA) last Feb. the car ran 11.98 w/1.58 60 ft, through the stock exhaust manifolds and a cut-out.
IMHO if you can only do one of the mods , go with the converter. Also check out the top 50 NA lists in the drag racing section to research for the most effecient converter out there. I'm a "Yank man" myself. Yes I was referring to the type of converter I like most.lol.Good luck!
James
In good air (-1500 DA) last Feb. the car ran 11.98 w/1.58 60 ft, through the stock exhaust manifolds and a cut-out.
IMHO if you can only do one of the mods , go with the converter. Also check out the top 50 NA lists in the drag racing section to research for the most effecient converter out there. I'm a "Yank man" myself. Yes I was referring to the type of converter I like most.lol.Good luck!
James
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? As TXCAMSS ( Yank Man LOL ) said, do the converter first. I also gained 4 tenths in the 1/4 mile with a mild Vig 2600 converter. As for headers I did the Mac's with ORY for $474 brand new and gained 2 1/2 tenths & 3 MPH. Both very good bangs for the buck.
The FLP's will give you more performance but I didn't feel it was worth the $700 - $800 more. If your looking for every last HP, get the FLP's.But if bang for the buck is important, get the Mac's.
The FLP's will give you more performance but I didn't feel it was worth the $700 - $800 more. If your looking for every last HP, get the FLP's.But if bang for the buck is important, get the Mac's.
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Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? Are headers worth the $1200 for the performance you get?...Well, on their own, no, BUT...headers are an essential BASE mod if your plan on anything big for the future. In the meantime, they yield nice gains and add a killer exhaust note <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1badZ28:
<strong>let me re-phrase the question for you... Is it worth the money ($1200) or are there other things that would help more for the same 1200 -- perhaps a 3200 stall converter instead..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Between a convertor and headers, convertor will definitely be the better choice to do first.
<strong>let me re-phrase the question for you... Is it worth the money ($1200) or are there other things that would help more for the same 1200 -- perhaps a 3200 stall converter instead..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Between a convertor and headers, convertor will definitely be the better choice to do first.
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From: Orlando
Re: do headers make a noticable difference in performance? A couple of cars I am familiar with are running the Mac's and a few of us are using the headers once known as Grotyohann long tubes. Each of the cars picked up nice gains with them. I would recommend a set of headers, for sure. What to spend is your call, but about a grand is average for good long tubes. At 4K RPM, hang on! They really come on strong then and the difference in the exhaust note was a pleasant secondary effect, too!
