Bullet installed today....IMO
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Bullet installed today....IMO
I bought an 16.5" bullet from a member...its a 3.5" in/out. Damn, it was way bigger than the resonator....Just some helpful tips before you buy one though..
make sure its the one you want, cause the one i bought, was bigger than I thought, and was WAY WAY close to the drive shaft. the muffler man had to use a crowbar to move it over.
Another thing, I lost a lil ground clearance, cause the bullet was bigger. Im not sure if i can lower my car safely, w/o the bullet scraping if i ever bottom out.
IMO, it tames the LM. I was driving with my windows up, but it sounds deeper, and not as raspy. Sounds same at idle, and WOT....but driving and shifting, it sounds almost like i have my 3 chamber flowmaster on again. Which didnt impress me at all. My next step i wanna try those chamber mufflers, like GMMG in place of the resonator. What do you guys think?
I think its too quiet for me now, but dont wanna take it back off, I already installed it.
Any feedback, please reply. Thanks <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
make sure its the one you want, cause the one i bought, was bigger than I thought, and was WAY WAY close to the drive shaft. the muffler man had to use a crowbar to move it over.
Another thing, I lost a lil ground clearance, cause the bullet was bigger. Im not sure if i can lower my car safely, w/o the bullet scraping if i ever bottom out.
IMO, it tames the LM. I was driving with my windows up, but it sounds deeper, and not as raspy. Sounds same at idle, and WOT....but driving and shifting, it sounds almost like i have my 3 chamber flowmaster on again. Which didnt impress me at all. My next step i wanna try those chamber mufflers, like GMMG in place of the resonator. What do you guys think?
I think its too quiet for me now, but dont wanna take it back off, I already installed it.
Any feedback, please reply. Thanks <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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When you say it's bigger than the resonator, what resonator are you talking about (I call the Bullet muffler a resonator.) Was the resonator you speak of also 3.5"? I take it the bullet muffler is quieter than the resonator?
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Sorry, when i was saying resonator, i was talking about the LM resonator.
the muffler guy cut it out, and I look inside, THERES NOTHING IN THERE. its like the exhaust flows through the I-pipe, then goes through the resonator, which is bigger, then back into the small i-pipe. Basically, the LM is just a straight pipe.
The bullet I bought is bigger than the LM resonator.
the muffler guy cut it out, and I look inside, THERES NOTHING IN THERE. its like the exhaust flows through the I-pipe, then goes through the resonator, which is bigger, then back into the small i-pipe. Basically, the LM is just a straight pipe.
The bullet I bought is bigger than the LM resonator.
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you bought the wrong size is why. I installed a 3" inlet/outlet 4" casing bullet two weeks ago and couldn't be happier with it. It doesn't hang any lower then the y-pipe.
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Re: Bullet installed today....IMO
I know now...What should I do? Should I keep it? Would it be different if i got the 3" in/out 4" diameter
I have 3.5" in/out 4" diameter 16.5" long
I have 3.5" in/out 4" diameter 16.5" long
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OfficerZ28:
<strong>I know now...What should I do? Should I keep it? Would it be different if i got the 3" in/out 4" diameter
I have 3.5" in/out 4" diameter 16.5" long</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, the 3" bullets have 4" bodies, the LM resonator has a 4.5" body, but the 3.5" bullet you bought has a 5" body. That is why you have tight clearances under there.
As far as power and sound go, you would not lose or gain with a 3", the only difference would be in the size of the bullet. I would just keep it unless you have clearance issues.
The chambered mufflers are very restrictive and have a very small core (2.5" is largest core). This is why GMMG has to split the exhaust flow in half and run 2 mufflers. Otherwise their exhaust wouldn't flow for crap. I have also seen it posted by folks that have put it in the I-pipe that one makes the car extremely quiet...
Good luck
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<strong>I know now...What should I do? Should I keep it? Would it be different if i got the 3" in/out 4" diameter
I have 3.5" in/out 4" diameter 16.5" long</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, the 3" bullets have 4" bodies, the LM resonator has a 4.5" body, but the 3.5" bullet you bought has a 5" body. That is why you have tight clearances under there.
As far as power and sound go, you would not lose or gain with a 3", the only difference would be in the size of the bullet. I would just keep it unless you have clearance issues.
The chambered mufflers are very restrictive and have a very small core (2.5" is largest core). This is why GMMG has to split the exhaust flow in half and run 2 mufflers. Otherwise their exhaust wouldn't flow for crap. I have also seen it posted by folks that have put it in the I-pipe that one makes the car extremely quiet...
Good luck
Dave
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OfficerZ28:
<strong>Sorry, when i was saying resonator, i was talking about the LM resonator.
the muffler guy cut it out, and I look inside, THERES NOTHING IN THERE. its like the exhaust flows through the I-pipe, then goes through the resonator, which is bigger, then back into the small i-pipe. Basically, the LM is just a straight pipe.
The bullet I bought is bigger than the LM resonator.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i duno why im bringing this up but acctually the resntr does a lot more than people think it does. Its an expansion chamber that acts as a muffler and takes away most of the loud backfires.
<strong>Sorry, when i was saying resonator, i was talking about the LM resonator.
the muffler guy cut it out, and I look inside, THERES NOTHING IN THERE. its like the exhaust flows through the I-pipe, then goes through the resonator, which is bigger, then back into the small i-pipe. Basically, the LM is just a straight pipe.
The bullet I bought is bigger than the LM resonator.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i duno why im bringing this up but acctually the resntr does a lot more than people think it does. Its an expansion chamber that acts as a muffler and takes away most of the loud backfires.
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I'm one of the people that has replaced the LM resonator with a chambered muffler. It doesn't make it too quiet at all. I've have nothing but complimants from it. It really made the LM sound really refined and deepened the tone of it. I can finally drive with my windows down and listen to the radio. I would do it all over again if I had to. Oh yea, I bought the muffler at www.sweet-thunder.com it was $58 shipped to my door.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98SilverZ:
<strong>I'm one of the people that has replaced the LM resonator with a chambered muffler. It doesn't make it too quiet at all. I've have nothing but complimants from it. It really made the LM sound really refined and deepened the tone of it. I can finally drive with my windows down and listen to the radio. I would do it all over again if I had to. Oh yea, I bought the muffler at www.sweet-thunder.com it was $58 shipped to my door.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LM owners: Do not do this!
The chambered mufflers, even the 3" version, only come with 2.5" internals. That's before the flow congesting louvers, crimps, and chambers.
You are defeating the purpose of a cat-back as a performance mod by putting a bottleneck in the I-pipe. Even the stock exhaust in 2.75". A 2.5" is a step backwards from that.
Just a heads up.
Dave
<strong>I'm one of the people that has replaced the LM resonator with a chambered muffler. It doesn't make it too quiet at all. I've have nothing but complimants from it. It really made the LM sound really refined and deepened the tone of it. I can finally drive with my windows down and listen to the radio. I would do it all over again if I had to. Oh yea, I bought the muffler at www.sweet-thunder.com it was $58 shipped to my door.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LM owners: Do not do this!
The chambered mufflers, even the 3" version, only come with 2.5" internals. That's before the flow congesting louvers, crimps, and chambers.
You are defeating the purpose of a cat-back as a performance mod by putting a bottleneck in the I-pipe. Even the stock exhaust in 2.75". A 2.5" is a step backwards from that.
Just a heads up.
Dave
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Its an expansion chamber that acts as a muffler and takes away most of the loud backfires. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I like the loud backfores <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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