OneQuickSS

Ive got a 2000 Camaro SS and was thinking of buying a ram air kit for it. I dont know which one to get so I will need someones opinion on which one works the best. Im leaning towards the super sucker or the one from fast toys. Is there any reason why I shouldnt buy it if my hood is doing that job already. So the big question is, will the ram air kit make any more power? Or will it hurt me because theres too much air going in?

deviate42

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I think you should look at the stealth intake. I thnk its just called the highflow air box at fast toys, but it uses a lid and air filter that is sooo much bigger than the stock, or aftermaket lid. I used to have a lid, now i upgraded to this and it made a noticable differnce.

unit213

onebadss

Sorry to say it, but the ram air is basically an appearance package. The hoodscoop and the airbox aren't sealed so you're not really getting cold outside air. There has been lot of research on this topic. Ram air has shown colder air intake at 60+mph. I can't remember if that was on a sealed WS6 or an SS. Either way, run a search. You should find lots of good info.

The FTRA kit is a proven mod. You can't go wrong with that. Forget about the Stealth Airbox. Just do the !FRA mod and you've got the same thing. I've heard both bad and good things about the SSRA (super sucker ram air). I have no personal experience with it though.

Good Luck!

Dan

Edit: Oops, I didn't see your sig. You already did the !FRA.

<small>[ November 24, 2002, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: camaro_ls1 ]</small>

LUV269

Go with the Supersucker. This bolt on finally got me into the 12's. You'll love it.

OneQuickSS

So what youre saying is that the factory ss hood is not funtional. So why does the SS have 15 more hp than the z28. I thought that was from the hood. Ive got the Whisper air lid and it is sealed, so I dont see why the hood wouldnt work. If so, should I get the super sucker or the one from fast toys.

ss1le02

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The SS hood does provide some benefit. It provides some cool air to the engine. Chevy rates the SS 15hp more than the Z28 due to the hood and the improved exhaust. This is also probably a little bit of creative advertising by Chevy. They have to be able to justify 3 thousand or more for the SS package. I've seen stock Z's and SS' turn the same times at the track. The Supersucker will give your engine plenty of fresh air to breathe.

KillerD

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The SS hood does work but it does not necessarily help on like a 1/8 or 1/4 mile runs. From the tests the SS hoods shines once it has been traveling for about roughly a mile. IT takes time but eventually the air that travles through the hood becomes noticebly colder (after getting past heat soak) and allows for a small increase in power vs a Z28. This is probably where the extra rated HP comes from. Oh and the less restrictive exhaust helps too

<small>[ November 24, 2002, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: KillerD ]</small>

DONAIMIAN

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Plus if you wanted a car for the ram air you shoulda got a T/A because with the SS the air has to come in at the center of the hood' and back to the front, through the baffels and then in the engine. With the T/A, it comes in, goes through the baffels and in the hood. With some self fabrication you can seal the hood your self, just go to a hardware store and look around and see what parts you could use. Look at the BG ram air for the trans ams and try to make something similar to it. And yea the FTRA is gona give you more power than what you have now becasue its a straight shot to the intake, but when it rains you gotta watch out or put the lil blocker in place.

JAM-SS

Hey man I've had the FTRA on my 98 SS for over a year and I love it.It think it helps alot mostly at higher speeds and rain has never been an issue considering this is my daily driver.The only problem I had was running hot in the middle of summer.So I just pulled the bottom plate off and when it cooled reinstalled it.Oh yea I live in Alabama it gets pretty hot here so you might not have this prob.The FTRA is a wise choice! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

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DinoZ

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The difference in the SS and the Z28's power comes from the exhaust, mainly. The Z has a 2.5" and the SS has a 3" with different muffler. The "ram air" on the SS is almost non-existant, and only really works from like 46-53pmh, then the front of the car creates a buffer which takes it back out of play. So getting a FTRA, Supersucker, or even making your own will show benefits. I only had my SS for 10 months before trading it in on my WS6, but I was going to do the Supersucker on the SS. I have custom plans for the WS6! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

OneQuickSS

I dont think Im gonna take the time to seal the hood, but if I was, can you give me more detail about how to seal it. I think Im just going to buy an aftermarket ram air kit. So is the $170 for the kit worth buying? Is there any difference between the Super Sucker and the one from Fast Toys?

unit213

The SSRA and the FTRA are completely different mods. Both increase air intake, but they do it in separate ways. You need to consider ground clearance with the SSRA and consider engine temps. with the FTRA. The FTRA is a proven mod. The SSRA is still somewhat new. I've heard good things though.

Hope this helps...

OneQuickSS

What do you mean they are different mods..I thought they were both the same. I thought they both mount under the car to the bottom portion of the intake. Why would I need to worry about engine temperatures with the FTRA? Thanks

DinoZ

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The FTRA has been known to partially block the radiator, causing increased coolant temps.

OneQuickSS

So even with the Hypertech, which turns on the fans sooner and the powerstat keeping it cooler, will this still be a problem for me. Look at my signature and maybe it will help determine what you think. Thanks

TXCAMSS

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The FTRA and SSRA are both excellent mods and I highly recommend them. I personally have the SSRA and it is my preference over the FTRA due to the fact that it extends down and faces forward into the oncoming air. It also sets a bit farther away from the radiator allowing more air flow to the radiator to minimize cooling issues. Those are the pros. The cons are that the SSRA is made of a high density polyethylene (plastic) and make not be as durable in the long haul where as the FTRA is made of stainless steel (I think). I can honestly say that my SSRA gave me a minimum of a 1/10th and 2 mph in the 1/4 mile over my modified stock SS hood scoop. BTW the stock SS hood scoop is non-functional as stated above unless you raise the air box and cut the hood opening 3/4 of an inch higher to allow the air to meet the airbox. You would also need to seal it good. The aftermarket kits are worth the $$$$ if you want results. No you can not have too much air coming in. Good luck!!!

James

OneQuickSS

Do you know if the ultra z hood works? They say its work about 15 more hp. Is that hood funtional. It seems to be better because it doesnt have to travel in around and back to the front of the airbox. It a straight shot.