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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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I have a 2002 WS6 and am planning on getting JET HOT headers (replica but better quality of HOOKER). Unfortunately, the firs tbatch they have is with EGR & AIR tube provisions. Since my 02 doesn't have these....what block off plates do I have to buy to make these headers fit my car.

Also, is there any performance difference in using headers with block off plates then compared to headers that do not have EGR/AIR tube provisions?

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Also, Can u pls tell me what other parts I need to order for complete install........although I think the headers come with installation kit but still based on your past experience.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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Do you know exactly what makes them better quality than the Hookers???
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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First off your 02 does have an air injection system unless you are going to remove it or already have, you will need the air tubes provisions. You can buy a block off plate ($10 at thunder racing) or make your own for the EGR tube and if you have removed the air system you can use the same plates for the air tube slots.

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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ls1speed has block off plates, they can hook you up with it all cheap.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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I just put 1998/1999 Hooker LTs on my 2001. I already had made block off plates for the AIR(removed a LONG time ago) and just fabed up another block off plate for the EGR. I have a plasma cutter so just cut them out of 1/8 steel plate, drilled the holes, and smoothed them on the grinder.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mike#9:
<strong>Do you know exactly what makes them better quality than the Hookers???</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">16 guage piping versus the 18 guage hooker used
o2 bungs are located on the inside of the collector, not outside
all the primaries are closer to equal length

thats about all i can think of off the top of my head.

but as mentioned above, ur car does have the AIR, so you'll need to make some air restrictor plates so you dont burn out your air check valves. you'll just need a block off plate for the EGR. to complete the install you'll need a Y pipe (hooker ORP, mufflex Y, or custom) and cats if you want to run them. You'll also need some band clamps. You can re-use your stock bolts and gaskets or buy new ones.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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What are band clamps......and aren't they included in installation kit from Jet-HOt. If I need them , then what size and ow many?

Also, what is the air restrictor plate and why do I need it? I thought all I need in EGR blocer plate since my 02 car alsready has air tube provisioning?

Sorry for dumb questions.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 16 guage piping versus the 18 guage hooker used
o2 bungs are located on the inside of the collector, not outside
all the primaries are closer to equal length </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also, the header flanges are thicker, and supposedly Jet Hot paid better attention to the welds. Alot of people have reported sloppy welds on the Hooker headers. With the Jet Hot headers, this should not be an issue.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What are band clamps......and aren't they included in installation kit from Jet-HOt. If I need them , then what size and ow many?

Also, what is the air restrictor plate and why do I need it? I thought all I need in EGR blocer plate since my 02 car alsready has air tube provisioning?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Band clamps are strong pieces of flat metal with flanges on the end that when wrapped around a pipe, the flames meet together and a bolt goes through the flange and can be tightened down with a nut to secure the two pieces of pipe together. You can see band clamps in the pic of my headers. I have one on the end of each header:

<img src="http://www.metalreviewcentre.com/images/PDRM0127.jpg" alt=" - " />

They are not necessary, but take the place of welds, and make it easier to separate the headers from the Y-pipe if you should need to. And no, they are not included in the installation kit.

AIR restrictor plates are similar to blockoff plates, but have a small (usually 3/16") hole drilled through it. The reason for this, is when you have headers on your car, your AIR check valves will flutter from the increased flow, and this will eventually burn them out and that will set an SES code. Putting the restrictor plates in there slows down the flow of the exahuast gases in the AIR pipes thus minimizing flutter.

Not sure if that explanation makes any sense, but its something you really need. If you dont put them in, you will eventually set an SES code.
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