Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need some help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:11 PM
  #1  
Rob98LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 662
Likes: 3
From: Sacramento
Default Need some help

I'm really new to 4th gens as I just got a 98 Z28, but I need some help on my exhaust setup. The car currently has Edelbrock LT headers and the Edelbrock ORY into a dynomax bullet muffler. This setup is way to loud for me and I live in CA so I need to get some cats on there and a reasonable catback. I looked through the stickies but the only y-pipe I can find for long tubes are sold as a combo for the pacesetters/y-pipe package at TSP. I have the stock catback that I think I will put on but where can I find that catted Y that I need so I don't get a ticket? Thank you for any help.

- Rob

Last edited by Rob98LS1; Jun 20, 2006 at 04:15 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:15 PM
  #2  
TheBlurLS1's Avatar
That's what she said...
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,954
Likes: 2
From: Nederland Texas
Default

Not sure which will mate up perfectly, but anything is possible. The TSP catted y can be adjusted (it's in pieces), so you could probably make it fit. If worst comes to worse you can get an exhaust shop to do a little fab job and make it fit. Some 3-bolt flanges would be sweet.

Do a search for edelbrock and see if anyone is running cats.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:59 PM
  #3  
lsx24's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,556
Likes: 0
From: NC
Default

What you want to do is have new cats welded (or flanged...) into your current ypipe.

This will save you tons of cash and be virtually perfect since you have no problems at the moment. Find a competent exhaust shop to do the work and you'll be done in less than one hour.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:15 AM
  #4  
Rob98LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 662
Likes: 3
From: Sacramento
Default

Thank you for the quick responses. I think I will try to have cats welded into the current Y-pipe. As for the that, will any hi flow cat work with the setup? Are there universal cats that I can use, or are there certain 4th gen cats that need to used? I have the O2 sensors from the stock ones, will those work with aftermarket cats? Thanks
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:09 AM
  #5  
00454sscamaro's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
From: south jersey
Default

cats are cats the only thing you would look for is diameter. all cats are - ceramic with holes in them.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 08:37 AM
  #6  
TheBlurLS1's Avatar
That's what she said...
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,954
Likes: 2
From: Nederland Texas
Default

Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
cats are cats the only thing you would look for is diameter. all cats are - ceramic with holes in them.
Some of the cats have fow better than others, they have "bigger holes" in the catalyst. Search 3" magnaflow cat on eBay, I have the $55 ones.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:01 AM
  #7  
300bhp/ton's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,660
Likes: 14
From: England
Default

Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
cats are cats the only thing you would look for is diameter. all cats are - ceramic with holes in them.
They most certainly are not, there's 3 very different kinds and amoung each flow rates and performance vary a massive amount.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:14 AM
  #8  
300bhp/ton's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,660
Likes: 14
From: England
Default

Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
I'm really new to 4th gens as I just got a 98 Z28, but I need some help on my exhaust setup. The car currently has Edelbrock LT headers and the Edelbrock ORY into a dynomax bullet muffler. This setup is way to loud for me and I live in CA so I need to get some cats on there and a reasonable catback. I looked through the stickies but the only y-pipe I can find for long tubes are sold as a combo for the pacesetters/y-pipe package at TSP. I have the stock catback that I think I will put on but where can I find that catted Y that I need so I don't get a ticket? Thank you for any help.

- Rob
There are several issues here. However firstly if you live in CA then LT's are illegal PERIOD.

This is because they move the stock location of the cats, if you feel you can get away with this then it's your choice but sooner or later you'll likely get pulled up on it.

Passing a sniffer and OBDII is easy. A catted Y and tune out any SES warnings via EFI Live/HP Tuners. But you will fail a visual.

The only manifolds which are legal in CA are shorties, and strickly only CARB certified ones.

Sadly on a n/a setup shorties are pointless as they don't scavenge so you will loose HP moving over too them. LT's don't flow any better but they do scavenge which is what gives you the extra HP.

If you plan on FI then either shorties or LT's would work the same as scavenging doesn't tale place due to the intake air being forced into the cobustion chamber above normal atmospheric pressure.

The choice is yours on which route you go.

As for a catted Y, there is not one available (at least yet) for the Edlebrock's and they will not be making one either. So this means you will have to fab cats into the existing Y pipe. This will likely require some work as it's not simply chopping and welding them in. Catted Y's are angled to allow clearance of the cats. It's perfectly possible for an exhaust shop to carry out this for you, however in CA you may not find many shops willing to do this for you.

If you opt to do this then you'll want some good CATS. CATS vary a great deal and there many different types. A high performance cat for a 4 cylinder engine will likely choke a large displacement V8.

As a budget CAT the Maganflow Carsound CATS are very good (as used by TSP in their catted Y for Pacesetter headers). You'll want the 3" core ones. This are pretty decent on a bolt on/cammed LS1 and will hardly affect flow or HP.

If you plan on a serious FI setup then you really ought to step up to the next level of cat, which is Metal Matrix. these are offered by Random Technology (7000 Series). Again you'll want the 3" core variant and they are good for zero flow loss on over 500bhp. I believe Maganflow also has some of these metal matrix cats one the way or newly released.

If you check Ebay you can usually buy new Magnaflow parts way cheaper than from Magnaflow themselfs.

Lastly, catback. Well if you want a more sedate setup then take a look at some of the other systems, Magnaflow, Hooker, SLP Dual Dual are all know to obe quieter. But there are a lot too choose from. Essentailly any FULL system using a full size muffler as opposed to a bullet will generally be quieter.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-2

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-9

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
Old Jun 25, 2006 | 06:58 AM
  #9  
Rob98LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 662
Likes: 3
From: Sacramento
Default

Okay, update. I did have the LTs, ORY, Dynomax bullet. Now I have the LTs, ORY, 3" catback piping, stock muffler. Now I just need a nice muffler and tips.

Right now it is insanely quiet, sounds almost like a V6. So I've decided I hate bullets, and I hate stock mufflers. I need it somewhere in between. I thought Borla would have been good, but from what I read the Borla is just as obnoxious as a bullet. I guess what I like is tone, but I guess its just difficult to get that with LS1s and their exhuast setup. I'm still undecided on what to get, but at least its quiet now.

Any quick comments? Any muffler in particular give the most tone that a LT, ORY setup can have? Been searching for 4+ hours and still completely clueless.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:30 PM.

story-0
10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

Slideshow: 10 reasons daily-driving a swap project might not be for you. Or is it?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-17 09:39:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-2
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-18 10:26:23


VIEW MORE
story-3
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-5
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-7
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE