How much should I charge for a pulley install tool?
 

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I'll have chrome/polished parts, carbon fiber/kevlar parts for Corvettes and F-bodies... and some do-it-yourself kits like coil pack relocation kits and !wire kits..

I'd like to offer a tool that is basically a piece of all-thread and a nut/washer that will make installing crank pullies much easier/ salfer for the threads.



What price should the pulley install tool be? What is the price from other vendors... I can't find a tool listed anywhere? :confused:

Thanks.... and start saving your pennies! :usa: ~Joshua

The bolts are about $4.

one guy was makin a damn nice installer and selling for like $40+ shipping.

Don't suppose you know his screen name?

The stock bolt costs $4 but the correct tool sure as hell isn't that cheap.

$25, you'll sell them faster than you can make them. I'll be able to pimp you like crazy. :jest:

I might pick up a coil relocation kit from you. :)

Which wires are you using with them?

Thanks bro!!!!

Customer chooses wires.... (Taylor 8mm any color, Taylor 10.4mm blue only, or MSD 8.5mm red or black)

I'll sell the brackets, supplies, and color instructions for about $50 and the customer chooses the wires/ends from the Summit cataloque (they have wires cheaper than I can get them. I'll help you get the type of wires you want.)

Here's a couple shots of the prototype mass production kit I did....

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Damn you Joshua, your going to take all my damn money :)

Damn... Ill be all over that relocation kit for $50!

Dammit! I hoped they'd be more expensive, that way I wouldn't want them as bad! I hope this thing turns out good for you.

I forsee........... a new C6 Z! /rhyme

a little confused... it's $50 for the relocation kit and supplies and then plus $$$ for the wires?

either ways i think you got yourself $50 from my pocket :)

I'd have to keep many different types of plug wires (colors/8,8.5,10.4mm/boot angles) in stock and I would have to sell them for more $$$ than the customer could buy them from Summit.

I'll have the part numbers for whatever type of wires the customer decides on and they can order them direct from Summit. It's cheaper for the customer and that's why I started this, to give LSx people more options at the lowest possible price. :usa: ~Joshua

Sounds like a good deal to me

Not the stock bolt, a longer version. Like said above there is a guy making some kind of tool. I just think the longer bolt is the best way to do it.

The guy who makes the tool goes by 618 Hawk. There is a post in the tools section. He gets $30 for it.

Thanks, I'll look into it.

The pulley tool is free from autozone (rental), But I would sell it for ~$25. People would buy it, I might would if I had to do a lot of them. Those coil pack relocation brackets are nice looking. I'd buy them for $50, so would lots of other people.

He's talking about the install tool. The threaded rod with nut and washer(s). You can rent a PULLER from autozone, but that's not what he's trying to sell. :D

so 50bucks for brackets then wires
do the wires come with the coilpack boots attached?

I'll give you my take on it since I've sold a few. https://ls1tech.com/forums/tools-fabrication/467329-original-pulley-install-tools-f-s.html Several years ago I decided to make some pulley tools to sell here after needing one myself and seeing people screwing up crank threads installing pulleys with bolts. I made a batch of 30 tools. Decided to sell them for $25 shipped. I figured that after seeing people paying $30~$35 for Larry's spring tool, people would pay $25 for a good quality pulley installer to keep in their tool box. I was making about $10 per tool after figuring in all expenses in making and shipping them. I took so much abuse on here for what I was charging compared to the $4 longer bolt you could buy that when I sold out the 30 tools I made, I quit selling them. Then early this year there seemed to be a rash of crank threads getting screwed up again and I decided to make another batch of tools again so MAYBE people would use them and quit screwing up their cranks. I made 24 more tools in Feb 06 and I still have 8 sitting on the shelf. Even though the other guy's tool sells for about $10 more than mine, people see it as looking fancier and seem to want it instead. The problem I see with his tool is you have to use a wrench to install the pulley and I like using a deep socket with a long handled ratchet to get more leverage. I get a lot of PM about my tool, but when I tell them it is $25 shipped, I never hear from them again. As soon as these last few tools I have are gone, I'm done. Just not worth it. Buying quality materials to make them is not cheap. Good luck selling them here.

And of the 16 tools I've sold since 02/06, 6 of them were sold on Ebay.

^^^ That's good insight. People spend hundreds per month on payments and insurance and won't spend jack to fix/modify their rides correctly. :eyes:

I may just get some longer bolts and sell 'em for $4 :jest:
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Brandon Boomhauer - The wires (if 8mm Taylor -what I run- any color) can be had for $85 with boots that will need to be crimped. The crimp tool is about $6.

So you have a complete kit with the type/color wires you choose for $146 including color instructions and polished brackets!!! There are (2) tools that would make the install much easier, a 90 degree drill attachment and a windshield wiper arm puller $30 total. So for $175 you have a 100% complete kit with everything you need to do a high quality job. Compare it to any other kit on the market....

Some guys will want the 90 degree boots to run between the headers and heads for the hidden look, and some will want the straight style to stick out like the factory ones. You can set the amount of slop (if you want custom routing) when you do the cut/crimp. ~Joshua

Yeah, I know what they need to work. I was the person to tell you about the 90* boots and how to make them work. In fact I was the first person on here do such a thing. If you actually had tried 90* boots you would see how they can not work.

I remember that now! :jest:


I'm actually running 90 degree boots now (until last week when I started the turbo install)... The wires used the 90 from the cylinder behind it to "hook" it and keep it away from the headers. I also had a copper wire that I used the keep them bundled. The whole bundle exits the back and runs up the firewall to the coil bricks.

I have to change to straight boots now, because the twin turbo manifolds have nowhere near the clearance between the heads that my old Hooker longtubes had.

I like 618Hawk's tool better than the one shown in this thread. I just bought a loinget bolt & washer and use that. for the right price I would buy 618Hawk's tool also.

I did make a lot of my own tools for cam installs.
To hold the pully still
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Valvespring tool.
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It needed a better "Threaded rod".

Do you have apic of the tool you plan to sell?

Ain't that the truth.:eyes: Never skimp on tools! I readily payed 25$ for Glen's pulley tool just for the peace of mind. Well worth it. I also bought the Crane spring tool (it cost over $100) and ARP head studs. I have this irrational fear of broken bolts and stripped threads. :)

That valvespring tool actually kind of sucked. I used an Advanced Auto Tool for most ot the springs. The one I mad for the rears.
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Explain why and go into detail.

You could sell EGR/AIR blockoff kits. It could come with all the plates you need AND the 1-3/8" adjustable freeze plug as well. If people have to wait for plates to come in, they might as well get the freeze plug from you too. :)

Great Idea!!! :thinker:

I bought the pulley install tool from 2xls1 and LOVE it!!!! Quicksilverado used it 3 times in the last week.

First off, not to trash your tool. I just use a longer bolt. But the Hawk tool just looks like a higher quality piece. It is a longer bolt, not a piece of threaded rod. The hand hold slip over piece looks like it would help. Looks like he put a lot of time and effort into it. I might actually try his tool. Yours, I think I would keep my longer bolt. But I also would not pay $30 for his. Maybe $20. Just my $0.02

I haven't tried it, but I heard the ARP bolt without the washer works too.

The longer bolt, of course, doesn't work the same way as the threaded rod. I bought the threaded rod for the very reason it was created... with the threaded rod, you don't drive the pulley on at the same time you are threading the rod into the crank. The longer bolt works great and obviously accomplishes the task but it doesn't work the same way. I'm more comfortable with the physics of the threaded rod. But... to each his own.

Just thought I would share a bit of info on my dampner install tool.

I feel it works rather well. And all those that have used it agree.
Here are a few reasons why.
With the threaded pusher section it acts as a handle to help hold the pulley in position, due to the large area washer at the bottom is the same diameter as the recessed area with in the dampner.

There are fewer moving parts to deal with, no loose washer or spacers.
Once tool and dampner are in place there is plenty of room to use a wrench to crank it on. Vs trying to get a wrench down inside of the dampner. Which I 1st noted problems with the 1st time I tryed a section of all thread, with just a nut and washer.
I can say, I have never used a longer bolt to push it on but have heard nothing but bad results. Due to bolts being to short and causing damage to the first few threads.
Some may say that my washer is a cheap way to go but if I were to add a thrust bearing, the cost would be much more. For something that would not help that much more, and appears not to be a issue.

I have looked the the autozone unit and it did not work with the LS1. At least the kit from my local store.

Here is the orginal thread.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/removed-locked-thread-graveyard/391883-new-crank-dampener-installation-tool-pics.html
Sorry if I stepped on any toes not asking to sell prior to, my fault. But if you look at my trader rating you will see all are happy.

Chris



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^^^ That does look like a very nice tool. If the user simply lubes the washer on the contact surfaces with light grease that should take care of any friction.

If any body wants to add a neat tool to my site they're more than welcome and you can drop ship it to customers.

If somebody has a tool that they want listed feel free to call or Pm. 678/492/6843 ~Joshua

Thanks Josh
As it is I have even been supplying a small packet of high quality grease to go along with the tool. Which is applied between the pusher section and the thrust washer. Like I said no problems so far.

Might take you up on your site.................

Chris

Call me anytime. :cheers: ~Joshua