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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Last week my car bottomed out pretty badly on the highway, enough so to break a wheel. I finally got under the car to inspect for other damange and notice that my headers are all dented. I took pics but am wondering if it's worth the hassle of replacing them, and getting PENN DOT to pay for them. They are reimbursing me for damage done to my car, but I'm not sure they will cover the headers.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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I sure would. As long as they are paying for it, I would have everything that was damaged in the incident replaced. Those look like kooks longtubes too.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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They are longtubes, and that's part of the problem. I'm not really sure I want to battle with PENN DOT over replacing long tube headers. I'm sure the question could come up of why am I running off-road only items while on public roads.... see my point??

This is not to be a slam on the QTP's, they are tucked up really tight, and no matter what header was there, it would have gotten crushed like this.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I would change them, because i'm obssesive compulsive about that kind of stuff. I wouldnt think it would hurt power and flow that much. You will never get the state to repair a set of Off road headers. Dont bother opening a can of worms with that one.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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it never hurts to ask to see if they will replace them, if they wont then no big deal, as long as the bump didnt hurt the welds or anything then I would say your fine, and now you have even more ground clearance!!!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Those dents don't look bad enough to worry about, and I was thinking the same thing about the off-road headers vs. DOT.

That bump didn't even look that bad! I guess you were thinking the same thing before you ran over it huh?

I thought that HP stopped making those wheels?
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I'm acutally happy that the headers hang a little lower than the motor, they saved my oil pan from getting damaged.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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they'll probably tell you they helped your ground clearance....

anyway, I don't think it would be worth buying a new set.
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Those dents don't look bad enough to worry about, and I was thinking the same thing about the off-road headers vs. DOT.

That bump didn't even look that bad! I guess you were thinking the same thing before you ran over it huh?

I thought that HP stopped making those wheels?
That picture doesn't do the damage justice.... There was a good 6" drop in the road way, and that patch was over 4ft wide. At the time I went through, there were multiple 20-30lb peices of concrete laying in the road, which is what I ran over.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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make up pay. they can afford it. good luck
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Jesus CHRIST!!! That's crazy...sorry to see that, make them PAY!
Looks like it caught the oil filter too?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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I'd put it in the list of damage as "exhaust system." The bean counters may not know what's what.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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I'd put it in the list of damage as "exhaust system." The bean counters may not know what's what.

That's true, I guess I can list it as exhaust manifold damage, what you can them is subjective I guess. I am planning on putting it in a body shop and letting them right up the cost estimate to repair and replace any damages.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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"Downstream exhaust manifold damage."
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Looks like a fault line!!! Man, make them pay for it!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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your cats would have been there if you didn't have longtubes. take some close up pictures of the pipe, but so close that you can't really tell where or what they are. just tell them that he damage was done to the exhaust system and get a price on new cats from a dealer to give to them. that should cover the cost of the headers?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Well, I got my tire re-mounted on the wheel today and talked to the guys about my car. The one service manager also has a ls1 T/A and I was explaining what happened.

He totally agreed to help me out by writing up the damage report using non-descript terms such as dents in the lower exhaust manifolds. He also said he would write it up with including labor rates for doing the swaps as well. Of course PENN DOT doesn't need to know that I'll fix the parts myself, but even if they don't cover everything, at least the labor will help offset some of the costs.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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You just tell them cosksuckers that you had a catted y pipe and yoiu took it off because it was dragging the ground. The emmisions legality or lack there of your headers is completely irrelevant.
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