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Old 09-26-2006, 10:07 PM
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Due to recent engine sizes and the lack of any room in the engine compartments. How important is it to keep the header length the same, vs having them range from 2-5 inches of difference? Any big drops in hp / tq, through the rpm's?

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No real difference. Pacesetters, for example, have no where near the same length, and make nearly identical power to the QTP's/Kooks which seem to be closer to equal length.

They all make about the same power, regardless.
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Well technically this is a big area with no single answer.

Equal length tuned headers are pointless if they are all tuned to the wrong length.

Also every setup varies to what header will make the most power. Heads, runner, cam, valves, setup, tuning can all affect the outcome. So the same headers make work great on one setup and less so on another.

Personally unless you have lots of money or are in a race glass where you must extract every single HP I really wouldn't bother too much. Just buy a header with a good reputation:

Cheap ones (coated mild steel):
-Pacesetter
-Edlebrock

Expensive stainless steel:
-QTP
-Kooks

In reality they will all acheive very similar numbers on almost all setups. Not enough to worry about anyhow. Material is the only real difference, so just pic your price category and try and find the best deal there is.

If you wan a more technical writeup, read posts 6 and 13 in the exhaust/induction sticky. It's quite lengthy but very imformative.
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Pacesetters tuck up really nice and I made 340rwhp with lid, Lt's, ORY and through a Flowmaster exhaust. Which by the way I will find out today exactly how much HP I am losing through it. Its dyno day.
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And due to the high cost of most things in life, I've thinking of making my own set. I was going to make them fit, and look like a decent set.

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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
No real difference. Pacesetters, for example, have no where near the same length, and make nearly identical power to the QTP's/Kooks which seem to be closer to equal length.

They all make about the same power, regardless.
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
Pacesetters tuck up really nice and I made 340rwhp with lid, Lt's, ORY and through a Flowmaster exhaust. Which by the way I will find out today exactly how much HP I am losing through it. Its dyno day.
I made 347 with simmlar mods with pacesetters best bang for the buck




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