Ebay Header experience...
Ebay Header experience... I'm sure someone will get upset about me making this thread but i thought I would share my experience with my ebay headers.
-Great Price (342$ to my door)
-Look great, strong welds.
The Install:
Once all the old crap was off it was time to put them in... passenger side slipped in like butter... hung down perfectly not too close to the floorboard but not hangin' like an SLP.
Driver Side: needed to pound a flat sheetmetal lookin thing down, grind off the square assemblie tab and push to get it up, but it went up... too far up.. the collector sits way too close to the floorboard and is aimed straight at my fuel and brake lines. I have the car at a buddies family shop and we are gonna pie cut the collector to get it to aim straight back instead of angled.
On a side note,, my car is running like ****.. first it was just loud... then it wss loud and misfiring.. now its loud, misifiring and backfiring.
Obviously the loud will go away when i finish the exhaust.. the misfiring will go away when i put my MSD wires and TR5 plugs in... but the backfiring?
Any advice on the backfiring?
BTW.. MSD wires are heat resistant correct?
-Great Price (342$ to my door)
-Look great, strong welds.
The Install:
Once all the old crap was off it was time to put them in... passenger side slipped in like butter... hung down perfectly not too close to the floorboard but not hangin' like an SLP.
Driver Side: needed to pound a flat sheetmetal lookin thing down, grind off the square assemblie tab and push to get it up, but it went up... too far up.. the collector sits way too close to the floorboard and is aimed straight at my fuel and brake lines. I have the car at a buddies family shop and we are gonna pie cut the collector to get it to aim straight back instead of angled.
On a side note,, my car is running like ****.. first it was just loud... then it wss loud and misfiring.. now its loud, misifiring and backfiring.
Obviously the loud will go away when i finish the exhaust.. the misfiring will go away when i put my MSD wires and TR5 plugs in... but the backfiring?
Any advice on the backfiring?
BTW.. MSD wires are heat resistant correct?
IF you are running engine with no header connected you may warp a value, if running open heads you need 18-20 in of distance after front o2' to end of open of collectors because o2' will not read correct without the 18-20" because o2' will read outside air temp
jusy my .02' Johnny
jusy my .02' Johnny
Originally Posted by wilddawg
get your exhaust sealed up and install some good plugs and wires. THis will cure most problems. those are lean misfires.
If you check your Ltrims and Strims, you'll see both probably maxed out at +(25-35). I wouldn't drive the car like this for long or else you'll end up fouling O2 sensors, plugs, and could even harm the cylinder walls by washing out the crosshatching.
I would imagine that all of those problems are normal header install problems that could be cured with tuning. With any header install, you will be running rich and will probably foul out your O2 sensors, regardless of header brand. I dont think those problems can be attributed to the header brand.
However, the fitment issue you had with driver side could be. If it is angled completely wrong, that is probably due to manufacturing. This is the first negative instance I have seen about the fitment of these headers. I wish more people would install these so we could get a representative sample of thier quality. That will come in time I suppose.
However, the fitment issue you had with driver side could be. If it is angled completely wrong, that is probably due to manufacturing. This is the first negative instance I have seen about the fitment of these headers. I wish more people would install these so we could get a representative sample of thier quality. That will come in time I suppose.
Yea, that was about the same with my install. Passenger side was butter and fits perfect. The Driver side, I had to notch the k member and grind the tab. And yes, my driver side header is almost touching the floorboard! It doesn't knock though! Its in the same position as yours is...the y pipe will fix that. I'll say it again, my ORY is a Jet-Hot piece! Look at a Jet hot ORY and go look at my pics on page 7 of that really big thread.
The backfiring is from raw fuel, the PCM is trying to learn something new. Tuning would help too. Put those new plugs and wires on! Oh, and those MSD's, I bet that the touch the header on the passenger side. They can't stand the high heat right there!!! What you have to do is use the metal shields off of the old stock wires. That cures the problem!!!
The backfiring is from raw fuel, the PCM is trying to learn something new. Tuning would help too. Put those new plugs and wires on! Oh, and those MSD's, I bet that the touch the header on the passenger side. They can't stand the high heat right there!!! What you have to do is use the metal shields off of the old stock wires. That cures the problem!!!
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Thanks for the input...
And as far as the 18-20" of piping... i have my 18" dynomax bullets clamped on them to server that purpose.
The MSD wires though?... are they heat resistant like they claim...
And as far as the 18-20" of piping... i have my 18" dynomax bullets clamped on them to server that purpose.
The MSD wires though?... are they heat resistant like they claim...
Originally Posted by Tainted
MSD wires can resist a lot of ehat but if they are on top of the header as in touching it, they will melt
Check for a cracked plug ceramic insulator. I cracked mine when I installed headers and it was a tiny hairline crack that was barely visible. It had my **** backfiring like crazy until I swapped it out. The backfiring is unburnt fuel that dumps into the header and ignites in the exhaust.
