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Function>Form Nov 12, 2006 09:08 PM

getting ready to install Pacesetter LT's. any advice?
 
i just bought some pacesetter lt's. i plan on installing them within the next couple weeks...actually as soon as they get here. i bought pacesetter lt's, pacesetter ORY, and an slp lm1 catback. i heard there was no modifications needed for pacesetters and install was great. just want to get some reassurance. is there anything in particular to watch for? how long should i expect to take? are pacesetter's really as easy to install as i've heard?



also, what all do i need?
header gaskets?
o2 extensions?
o2 sims?

lastcall190 Nov 12, 2006 09:31 PM

Only thing to watch for is you MIGHT have to grind off the tab on the block on the driver's side, it's tough to explain, but you'll know EXACTLY what I mean if it gets in your way. How long? Depends on how easy the old shit comes out. My dipstick was a shit head and didn't wanna come out, so it took me 12 hrs (wasted 5hrs trying to get the fucker out). Is the install as easy as you've heard? IMO you shouldn't have much trouble if you are fairly mechanically inclined and resourceful. You CAN reuse your stock gaskets, but I just got new stock ones. You dont NEED sims, you can just have them tuned out if you wish, all you'll get is an SES light if you don't. Have fun, hope you like loud :judge:

-J

EDIT: No I did NOT have to modify my ACTUAL headers, those slid in just fine. Can't comment on the y-pipe, I have the TSP duals.

NHRAMAN Nov 12, 2006 09:35 PM

I woukld suggest putting aside 5-12 hoursw for the install..depending on where/how you r doing it...I as well as many others on the board here suggest ...part # 13111 Bosch Rear 02 sensors..they have a wider heat range....I as well as others have used them and no codes have appeared compared to stock 02's.

presto_z Nov 12, 2006 09:37 PM

this is kinda off topic, but i just got my pacesetters in the other day and they came with metal gaskets, not the crap ass paper ones.... anyone elses come with the metal ones?

Function>Form Nov 12, 2006 09:43 PM

keep em' comin

NHRAMAN Nov 12, 2006 09:50 PM

when u are ready to actually put them in...point the collector[end of header] towards the ground and then when it is up there rotate it to normal position....i think all them go in easier this way......some people remove coil packs...i didn't and it is really only better to if you have very large hands ...helpful though for tightening bolts, although I think it is extra work/confusion. IMO.

Function>Form Nov 12, 2006 09:56 PM

:thumb:

NHRAMAN Nov 12, 2006 10:20 PM

o yeah---DO NOT USE PAPER GASKETS...i bought PERCY gaskets ....although any good copper ones will do......

RevGTO Nov 13, 2006 08:29 AM

Remember to take off the oil filter ... we ground off the tab on the block, but maybe wouldn't have had to if we'd remembered to take off the filter first.

melchoir Nov 13, 2006 08:33 AM

I did not rremove the oil filter on my install (different headers though). Take your time, if it's your daily driver, start early as possible on Saturday morning.. that way you have the weekend to make it driveable.

Function>Form Nov 13, 2006 08:51 AM

does the driver side header toe outward on the pacesetter? and can i do it without taking filter off?

Chad@LivernoisMotors Nov 13, 2006 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Function>Form
does the driver side header toe outward on the pacesetter? and can i do it without taking filter off?


I did not have to take my filter off, and my header didnt toe outwards that I noticed but I'm sure it will be fine.


Now the dipstick on the other hand.. :bang: Took 3 people to get that little thing out.

yak Nov 13, 2006 11:32 AM

dude I have installed a few sets of pace setters and never one had to grind the block, remove oil filters or anything like that. you have to do to clear that tab on the block is remove a piece of heat shield and then put a 2x4 on the oan and jack the motor up about 3/4 inch (assuming you still have rubber motor mounts) it usually takes me about 15 minutes total to slip the new headers in and get a couple bolts started.

maguilar0503 Nov 13, 2006 05:05 PM

+1... Just did my install and all i had to do was jack up the motor.

GeArBaNgEr56 Nov 13, 2006 05:40 PM

Damn, elaborate please thats FAST.

yak Nov 13, 2006 06:05 PM

ok first take out all the old shit. then get the front end so the front wheels are probibly 10 inches off the graound. then pull the heat shielding off. put a 2x4 arcross the oil pan and slowly jack it up. you only need to go about 3/4 of an inch then the header will slip in like a wiener in a 2 dolla hooker. line up your gasket and put a couple bolts in do the other side and drop the motor back down.

this may help. https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/319764-pacesetter-lt-s-hooker-ory-catback-review.html

RevGTO Nov 13, 2006 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Function>Form
does the driver side header toe outward on the pacesetter? and can i do it without taking filter off?

The driver's side collector was angled outward on my buddy's car. I remember noticing it and thinking it odd.

Z28LS1camaroguy Nov 13, 2006 10:03 PM

yeah that tab was a bitch to get by, get a rag and a rubber mallet to hit the header past it without scratching it. Oh yeah its a easy thing to do but still you need another person to help b/c its a bitch doing it by yourself believe me i know lol.

Function>Form Nov 13, 2006 10:03 PM

so for this install...


do i need o2 extensions?
o2 sims?
copper gaskets


and about 5-12 hrs?

8tsixt Nov 13, 2006 10:15 PM

your pacesetters come with new copper gaskets. it took my brother and me 4.5 hours for the headers and magnaflow catback.


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