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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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how much gain will i get off shorty headers?.....i know the long tubes make a lot more power but without getting a catted y they sound like my boat.. do you think shortys are good for atleast 10 hp ??
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Of course they are, if Z06 manifolds are good for 10hp, then I would guess shorty headers would be a little better.
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Just find a way to get long tubes..........or put your money elsewhere...suspension?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Not to single you out..
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Just find a way to get long tubes..........or put your money elsewhere...suspension
You'll find that most will poo-poo shorties...

Heres my slant..if shorties are better than the stock..by whatever measurment..and your willing to spend the money...shorties are worth it.

Better is better..if ther is NO diffrence between shorties and stock headers..then I see no reason to make the change.

So...has anyone ever quantified that shorties DO or DONOT out perform stock headers!
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jpat1023
Just find a way to get long tubes..........or put your money elsewhere...suspension?
I agree, if you're going to go through the trouble get LT's. Unless you're subject to visual inspections.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BitViper
Not to single you out..
Not a problem...although I had a very similar argument for 5 pages a couple weeks ago.

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You'll find that most will poo-poo shorties...

Heres my slant..if shorties are better than the stock..by whatever measurment..and your willing to spend the money...shorties are worth it.

Better is better..if ther is NO diffrence between shorties and stock headers..then I see no reason to make the change.

So...has anyone ever quantified that shorties DO or DONOT out perform stock headers!
Your take on the situation is very logical, so I'm not going to argue about this, but the difference between shorty's and stock manifolds is minuscule, worthless, probably not even measurable on a dyno.........The only way I would get shorty's is if I was going turbo; Or if they cost $10 and someone installed them for me, b/c I sure as hell wouldn't waste my time with it. I guess that's just my opinion tho...
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10 rwhp is a lot to expect from shorties if you were strating with a 98 or 99. In 2000 the exhaust manifolds were improved so the gain from shorties is likely to be closer to 5HP in your case.

IMO, the case for shorties is strictly to meet visual inspection or for dress-up if you get the nice looking ones. There are numerous things that can be done to fix sound quality with L-T such as adding cats, adding a bullet muffler, or going with true duals. The HP/$ factor is much better with L-T.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Not a problem...although I had a very similar argument for 5 pages a couple weeks ago.
Yeah I know..its a hot topic
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Yeah I Have A 02 Ws6,so The Stock Mannys Are Prolly As Good As Shorties,looks Like Ill Run Lt And A Catted Y......
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10 RWHP is pushing it with shorties, Id say 5 and be happy with that, for the most part mids only give you 15ish and their ALOT better then shorties
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you wont see 10rwhp from shorties on an otherwise stock motor if you have a 00-02

if you want some hp, gut your cats, and if you have a 98-99 F body switch manifolds to the 00+ ones.

longtubes or no tubes
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longtubes or no tubes
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