Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Stock HP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:04 AM
  #1  
Detoxx03's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,336
Likes: 74
From: Woodward Avenue
Default Stock HP

I have a 2002 T/A and a few questions. First what is the stock hp on a 2002? Second will Bassani headers and Y-pipe work with slp loudmouth 2 exhaust? Third I have heard a few times on here people say they have gutted cats, what exactly is that? A guy at my local shop also asked me when I was getting my exhaust installed if I wanted the cat on or off. What exactly was he referring to? I told him to keep it on.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:23 PM
  #2  
BAD2000TA's Avatar
12 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 1
From: Friendswood
Default

First, don't worry about the horsepower rating on the 2002 Trans Am. It's all BS anyways. The factory underrated these cars badly, so not to step on the 'Vette's toes. Most 2001-2002 will dyno at the rear wheel around 320-330 horse. Next, don't waste your money on the Bassani headers. They are only mid-length which don't add much to the power output compared to the factory manifolds. If you're going to get headers, get a set of full length. Kooks are the best, with QTP a close second. Both are very good for freeing up horsepower, they are both constructed in stainless steel and fit very good. The Kooks y-pipe has a much better fit reputation compared to QTP's.

If you're looking to increase the power in your car, look first at a decent catback. That's easy and relatively cheap. Next, get a good air lid. SLP has a good one, MTI also. If you can swing a set of headers, get them. Next, would be a cam and/or ported heads.

Lastly, most of your questions have been answered hundreds of times before. Trying using the search function. It is very good at finding what you need. Plenty of research will allow you to customize your car to your personal tastes. Just remember, it's your car so don't let people tell you what you "need" for your car. Enjoy it and have fun in the process.

brian
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:27 PM
  #3  
BAD2000TA's Avatar
12 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 1
From: Friendswood
Default

Oh, and gutted cats refer to the catalytic converters being hollowed out. They are filled with a honeycomb material designed to "cleanse" the exhaust of harmful exhaust byproducts. You'll see a lot of people recommend removing their cats for more power. While there might be some gain, it's also illegal to remove them on a street driven car. If you're caught, it's a ticket. Also, the shop that removes them could be fined by the feds (EPA) for removing them.

I'd leave them on. You're not losing any power you'll notice.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:28 PM
  #4  
JohnnyC's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 1
From: The 'Burgh, PA
Default

Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
Most 2001-2002 will dyno at the rear wheel around 320-330 horse.


300-310 maybe, but not 320-330. A stock F-body putting down 320 or more HP to the rear wheels is rare. You generally need some bolt-ons to see those kind of numbers.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:57 PM
  #5  
brad8266's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,797
Likes: 0
From: Watertown, NY
Default

Originally Posted by JohnnyC


300-310 maybe, but not 320-330. A stock F-body putting down 320 or more HP to the rear wheels is rare. You generally need some bolt-ons to see those kind of numbers.


I put down 323 with a lid only, 2000 TA, no LS6 intake. 320-330 is very likely in an M6 01-02 ls1 due to the LS6 intake.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:13 PM
  #6  
Detoxx03's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,336
Likes: 74
From: Woodward Avenue
Default

Thanks for the replies. I'm waiting on UPS as I type cause they will be delivering my SLP LOUDMOUTH 2
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:16 PM
  #7  
brad8266's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,797
Likes: 0
From: Watertown, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Detoxx03
Thanks for the replies. I'm waiting on UPS as I type cause they will be delivering my SLP LOUDMOUTH 2
SHould have chosen a different exhaust, loudmouth is too loud and annoying.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:25 PM
  #8  
Detoxx03's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,336
Likes: 74
From: Woodward Avenue
Default

I've heard a few around and it doesnt sound that bad cruising but I know when you get it over 3500 rpm it gets really loud. What exhaust and headers are some of you guys running?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:34 PM
  #9  
mpe488's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL
Default

Pacesetter are the cheapest good ones. They're rust a bit over the next few years, only run about $400. Kooks and QTP are equally good and stainless, they won't rust- but they'll run you about $800. Unless you plan to own the car for 5+ years I'd suggest pacesetters.

But lid is much cheaper ($100) and you will gain about 10hp from it, I say take care of the cheapest stuff first then move on to full exhaust, and then whatever else you want. It doesn't make sense to me to invest $1,000 or more in exhaust before doing something as simple as a lid.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:12 PM
  #10  
JohnnyC's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 1
From: The 'Burgh, PA
Default

Originally Posted by brad8266


I put down 323 with a lid only, 2000 TA, no LS6 intake. 320-330 is very likely in an M6 01-02 ls1 due to the LS6 intake.
He said MOST cars, which would make 320-330 stock RWHP the exception-not the rule.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:15 PM
  #11  
Cop Car's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,520
Likes: 0
From: Indy
Default

LS1s are rated from 305hp to 350hp. they all made 350hp
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:49 PM
  #12  
BAD2000TA's Avatar
12 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,338
Likes: 1
From: Friendswood
Default

Originally Posted by JohnnyC
He said MOST cars, which would make 320-330 stock RWHP the exception-not the rule.
Well, my 2000 Trans Am with 4,000 miles, put down 316. That was completely stock and in hot, humid Houston weather. With a lid, LS6 intake, and crappy Flowmaster, it put down 326.

Now, the 2001-2002's have CONSISTENTLY put down more power than the 1998-2000's.

But, really, who gives a **** what it lays down stock. I've modded my old 2000 and now I have a MTI Stealth 2 cam and new LS6 heads to install on my 2001 WS6 (the 2000 was stolen last year).

The original poster is going to mod also, so stock numbers are really pointless unless you really care about how much you gained. But, then, why would you. All anyone really wants is the final number to be a good number; not how much one gained. I don't hear people bragging that they picked up x-number more horse over stock. It's all about the total you have right now and how to increase it.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:55 PM
  #13  
ws6_bandit's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, Missouri
Default

Originally Posted by JohnnyC


300-310 maybe, but not 320-330. A stock F-body putting down 320 or more HP to the rear wheels is rare. You generally need some bolt-ons to see those kind of numbers.
True. my buddy has lid, headers, and ls6 intake and he dynoed 335 at the wheels. 330 stock is
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:07 PM
  #14  
Cop Car's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,520
Likes: 0
From: Indy
Default

please for the love of everything good and pure dont bring up individual dyno numbers. expecialy those with mods.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:18 PM
  #15  
GR33N GoblinM6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,301
Likes: 1
From: Utah
Default

my stock 98 put down 301rwhp in FULL.. stock trim.. that includes the shitty air box with its gay baffles..

a lid would yeild you 10hp.. so to the guy who said he laid 323 with a lid.. DUH thats 313-315hp... you're right in the ballbark.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:18 PM
  #16  
5_02ls1's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,131
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default shity cam

Originally Posted by brad8266


I put down 323 with a lid only, 2000 TA, no LS6 intake. 320-330 is very likely in an M6 01-02 ls1 due to the LS6 intake.
yeah they had the ls6 intake but 01 02 cars cam was degraded on duration and lift.so the hp stayed the same

Last edited by 5_02ls1; Jan 30, 2007 at 05:38 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:36 PM
  #17  
Brian2006's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,063
Likes: 0
From: Tomball/Nacogdoches TX
Default

Originally Posted by brad8266

Friend put down 323.79 rwhp and 335.80 on a dynojet completely stock down the paper filter, no freemods, and shitty catback.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:47 PM
  #18  
Justin00SS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,673
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Default

352hp/353tq

Bolt-ons stock tune ohhh yeah. U/D pulley is in the mail.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 06:49 PM
  #19  
GR33N GoblinM6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,301
Likes: 1
From: Utah
Default

dynojet ... dynojets are great if you like over inflated dyno #'s that you can fudge. change tire pressure, preload the suspension.. ect.. nice..
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:48 AM
  #20  
Justin00SS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,673
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Default

Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
dynojet ... dynojets are great if you like over inflated dyno #'s that you can fudge. change tire pressure, preload the suspension.. ect.. nice..
The numbers are SAE. Industry standard.

If you have a problem with the industry standard then you have other issues.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE