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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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I bought some nice new KOOKS Headers, got them on wednesday but the weather was bad so I had to wait till today to put them on. Why me? I think GOD Almighty himself put the head bolts in and torqued them down to like a million foot pounds. I now have a completely rounded header bolt that will not move. I have tried everything possible short of C-4 and blasting cap..To make things worse it the last bolt and is keeping me from moving on... Anyone have any ideas?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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might have to resort to the good ole vise-grips and crank em down...
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stangbangin69
might have to resort to the good ole vise-grips and crank em down...

I have tried that, but with position of the bolt and being that it is on the passenger side there is no room really to crank down on them plus the bolt is really round I can not get anything to bite...
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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i would try to brake that bitch off at the head. the stud probaly come out easy once you get the tention off.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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i would try to brake that bitch off at the head. the stud probaly come out easy once you get the tention off.
WOW.... Im not gonna do that... The stock manifold pivots up and down on the bolt, the bolt itself is frozen in the head....
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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some type of penetration spray for bolts....should have done that first anyway......[I didn't with mine though either...but mine sees 2% precipitation if that...only when caught in rain.] Might have to get it drilled out or go buy an E-Z OUT KIT[have not used one, but others here have...hopefully they will chime in.] G'LUCK
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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suck 4 j00 have fun!


actually on a more helpful level +2 on the ez out unless you wanna pull the head off
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Sears sells a few craftsman "bolt out, damaged bolt/nut remover" socket kits for rounded off bolts. I'd try that first. Drilling is a last resort, if you can even get to it - friend of mine broke a head off #1 - tried drilling with it on the car and hit dexcool, wasn't pretty. Good luck with it. Don't know why they're so tight, torque isn't that much.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Im about to kick the car off its jackstands and roll it down the hill.....Im gonna go to sears and get the 10 mm bolt out socket I dont have that one . I have the 11mm and 3/8. Ive tried every variation of lubricant i could think of....
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Sears sells a few craftsman "bolt out, damaged bolt/nut remover" socket kits for rounded off bolts. I'd try that first. Drilling is a last resort, if you can even get to it - friend of mine broke a head off #1 - tried drilling with it on the car and hit dexcool, wasn't pretty. Good luck with it. Don't know why they're so tight, torque isn't that much.
Most of the reputable companies have their version of an EZ OUT........I certainly hope I did not give the impression that an INEXPERIENCED layman should be DRILLING anything. ..if this needs to be done as a last resort...a professional should be doing the ' DRILLING'.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001NBMZ28
Sears sells a few craftsman "bolt out, damaged bolt/nut remover" socket kits for rounded off bolts. I'd try that first. Drilling is a last resort, if you can even get to it - friend of mine broke a head off #1 - tried drilling with it on the car and hit dexcool, wasn't pretty. Good luck with it. Don't know why they're so tight, torque isn't that much.
+1, worked on my rounded header bolt.. in the back... on the passanger side..
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
+1, worked on my rounded header bolt.. in the back... on the passanger side..

You know once i pulled the cat on the passenger side I crawled underneath and it was the easiest one to get out...
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Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
Most of the reputable companies have their version of an EZ OUT........I certainly hope I did not give the impression that an INEXPERIENCED layman should be DRILLING anything. ..if this needs to be done as a last resort...a professional should be doing the ' DRILLING'.

Dont worry i will not be drilling anything on my car unless its a naked female bent over the hood ...
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I bought a new set of bolt out sockets today ill get back on it tomorrow, Ill let yall know how it goes...
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yeah i was just going to suggest getting under it, it's so damn easy to get to it, the funniest part is you are able to see number 8 so easy, and if youve ever done plugs, seeing number 8 is like seeing god.

btw the bolt being so damn hard is from the two different types of metals. the aluminum heating and cooling down, expanding and shrinking, do it enough times over and over and it starts to fuse itself to the exhuast manifold bolds.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Yep its out. I had to cut the head off the bolt with a sawz-all, then once i got the manifold out of the way i was able to get a pipe wrench on and turn it slowly for like 30 mins before it came out....
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btw the bolt being so damn hard is from the two different types of metals. the aluminum heating and cooling down, expanding and shrinking, do it enough times over and over and it starts to fuse itself to the exhuast manifold bolds.
Funny, I'd think the thread locking compound they put on the bolts during assembly would have a little something to do with it...

Hmmmm....
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Funny, I'd think the thread locking compound they put on the bolts during assembly would have a little something to do with it...

Hmmmm....
metals expand and contrast, give them enough time and they start to bond with one another
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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metals expand and contrast, give them enough time and they start to bond with one another
I agree with you, subject the two types of metals to heat and cold constantly over time they just bake together....By the way I had to take both motor mounts loose and jack up the motor to get the headers to slide between the car and the motor, nothing simple about this install, but they are in and sound awesome and my car enjoys them... for future kooks long tube header installs, my advice bring some friends and good luck....
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Originally Posted by 2001NBMZ28
Sears sells a few craftsman "bolt out, damaged bolt/nut remover" socket kits for rounded off bolts. I'd try that first. Drilling is a last resort, if you can even get to it - friend of mine broke a head off #1 - tried drilling with it on the car and hit dexcool, wasn't pretty. Good luck with it. Don't know why they're so tight, torque isn't that much.
he had to be drilling for oil !!

grind the head off the bolt, if all else has failed in trying to remove it, so you can get the manifold off. Then squirt some penetrating lube on it, some real stuff not just wd40, give it overnight and take the vise grips to whats left sticking out. You should be able to remove it at that point. If not then a drill and an easy out. Wich bolt is it front or back? if you dont have room for a drill you'll have to take the head off.
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