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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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Does anyone make headers with 1-7/8" primaries for 99 or similar year model LS1's? I know there are 1-3/4". Wondering if there is anything bigger??

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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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as far as I know, the Grotts are the only 1 7/8" header out there.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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dynatechs

what r u putting these on?

you're going to need some cubes to make those headers work
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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I'm getting the 1 7/8" Grots from ARE with my engine.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

Not sure if I'm getting them or not yet. I was wanting to see what was available. I want to get all of my options listed out before I decide on what I'm doing...

Where is a good place to get the grots? I've heard getting them direct can be a PITA?
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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ARE may have some 1 7/8 (when they finally get delivered). Nick was planning to buy an extra set or two as part of the GP he did.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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Like I said, ARE has my pair there right now and there sending them with my motor.

Call and see.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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Like I said, ARE has my pair there right now and there sending them with my motor.

Call and see.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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I appreciate everyone's feedback!
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

I am waiting for my grotts also. Whisper made a handful of midlenth 1-7/8's a while back but never continued production.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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To all potential 1 7/8" header customers keep in mind this size tube is more rpm specific than cubic inch specific. I built a 406 small block that dynoed 636hp at 6500 rpm with 1 3/4" tubes, we tried bigger primary headers and it picked up 10 hp but traded torque at lower rpm. Later i had a chance to try bigger headers in car and it ran no better at the track. My point is even with stroker LS1's you might stay with 1 3/4" unless you plan on real high rpm's, Dyno results arent as important as track times. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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My question is, if I do get 1-7/8 Grots, where in the hell can I order them from? ARE? Anywhere else? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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I think thunderracing had some a while back. I don't know if they are still ordering, but when I wanted some before christmas they quoted me 5-8 weeks. <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

LS1Kyle, sorry my post didnt answer your question,
i guess trying to keep you from making a purchase mistake isnt as important as helping you find too big a header.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

[quote]Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>LS1Kyle, sorry my post didnt answer your question,
i guess trying to keep you from making a purchase mistake isnt as important as helping you find too big a header.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't take what I said the wrong. I'm not irritated at you guys and I really appreciate your input!! I was just asking where to find them. Every link I find for Grots goes to some unrelated web site. That's what I'm irritated about. Plus I've heard to not order from Roger directly... <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">

Thanks again!!!! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

I WOULD NOT spend the green for 1 7/8" headers for a 346 cubed LS1.

I WOULD NOT deal with Rodger for anything other than to maybe ask the time of day.

1 7/8 are too big for most LS1's

Grotyhans personality/customer service is acerbic at best. (IMO)

Good luck finding your headers.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

Ls1Kyle, thats cool, im just trying to be helpfull in areas i have experience with.
Raughammer thank you for chiming in on this one.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

I like the Dynatech stepped headers (1.75 to 1.875) for my larger cubed motor - had very good results with those. I would have to think, though, that they *might* be too big for a 346 cube motor, though I am not sure if the stepped design helps with that.
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

I beleive that the 1 7/8's will be good on an aggresive heads/cam combo with stock cubes. That is the reason that I'm getting them and they weren't any more expensive than 1 3/4 because of the GP thru ARE. I'll let you guys know the results when I get them.
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 1-7/8 Headers??

Didn't LG say that Nascar runs 1 3/4" long tubes?

Someone said this, if 1 3/4" is good for 358 cube motors making 750 or so HP then I'd not argue with the NASCAR builders.
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