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Old 05-01-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
How much less do you think a 4" single exhaust would be losing over a 3" true dual setup?
Let me put it to you this way, since I've never dyno'd a 4" single exhaust against a 3" dual setup.

Mrr23, who is a member on here, gained 15RWHP going from a 3" y-pipe exhaust to the Bassani 2.5" true dual exhaust.

He actually made more power with the TD's and ran faster in the 1/4 mile then he did with an open cutout. And I've never seen a y-pipe setup make more power than an open cutout.

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http://www.stealthram.com/2000pontiacformula.html

I think that should answer your question
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
You really have no idea what you are talking about. If it were just about sq in of area, all cars would just come with a big single exhaust. Obviously you're never dyno'd a y-pipe setup and true dual setup back to back. There is much more to it than that.

There's a reason all high end sports cars come with dual exhaust with a crossover of either an X or H pipe. It's best for flow, exhaust velocity, and sound.

A true dual 3" system with an X-pipe will make more power, flow better, and have high exhaust velocities than your 4" y-pipe setup. Its a fact, physics are working against you. If you don't believe me than try it yourself, you will make more power and torque than you have now.
Again you act like I didnt say that I have tried several different things on two different engines. Which is a fact. I had 2.5" dumped true duals before the 4" single. I believe the difference was 5-7 hp up top and it lost around the same in the mid range. This being an exhaust that went over the axle and out the back. The main reason that people choice one or the other is sound. You can make either support power if you build it right. How many exhausts have you personally built? How many have you personally dynoed and tuned? I doubt many.

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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
You really have no idea what you are talking about. If it were just about sq in of area, all cars would just come with a big single exhaust. Obviously you're never dyno'd a y-pipe setup and true dual setup back to back. There is much more to it than that.

There's a reason all high end sports cars come with dual exhaust with a crossover of either an X or H pipe. It's best for flow, exhaust velocity, and sound.

A true dual 3" system with an X-pipe will make more power, flow better, and have high exhaust velocities than your 4" y-pipe setup. Its a fact, physics are working against you. If you don't believe me than try it yourself, you will make more power and torque than you have now.


Have you ever dynoed the same car with a true dual and then with a big single and Y pipe?
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Again you act like I didnt say that I have tried several different things on two different engines. Which is a fact. I had 2.5" dumped true duals before the 4" single. I believe the difference was 5-7 hp up top and it lost around the same in the mid range. This being an exhaust that went over the axle and out the back. The main reason that people choice one or the other is sound. You can make either support power if you build it right. How many exhausts have you personally built? How many have you personally dynoed and tuned? I doubt many.
id say 5-7 hp throughout the curve pretty much proves his point, no?

seems like a decent gain when comparing 2 already "high capacity" exhausts
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Gained up top, lost down low. Proves my point, its about the same thing. I dont care about peak hp anymore. I would rather have it 3000-4500
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I like my 1998 OEM single.


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A lot would have to do with the muffler, no? Some are proven to flow much better then others. I actually really like the single tip, turndown style exhuast. It's gives Camaro's a very clean look in the back, most exhaust tips on that car look bad.
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Originally Posted by Grifter
A lot would have to do with the muffler, no? Some are proven to flow much better then others. I actually really like the single tip, turndown style exhuast. It's gives Camaro's a very clean look in the back, most exhaust tips on that car look bad.
These are not the most now are they??

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Originally Posted by gollum
I like my 1998 OEM single.

Looks nice!!!!!!!!
Personally i like beefier/meaner dual tips.
To each it's own, period.
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Hey jerk, where is a good sound clip of that thing? I would like to hear it on your car.
Here they are.

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Originally Posted by Kage
These are not the most now are they??

They stick out too much, haha.
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They don't stick out too much. you just can't get a feeling of depth with that black bumper he has.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
They don't stick out too much. you just can't get a feeling of depth with that black bumper he has.
I was just kidding.
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I have a 3 in ory with a single pipe dumped at the axle sounds good i think and so dose everyone that has heard it. i am goin to put a dynomax bullet after the y so it sound a little better. far as the bumber goes i did the ceta mod and it looks really good.
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Originally Posted by Grifter
They stick out too much, haha.
Haha not, it's just an illusion fool.
Don't talk **** before you know the facts.





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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
They don't stick out too much. you just can't get a feeling of depth with that black bumper he has.
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Originally Posted by Kage
Haha not, it's just an illusion fool.
Don't talk **** before you know the facts.
That looks great man. Seems like all too many Camaros and Formula have the exhaust tips sticking way the hell out, and it looks terrible.

Yours has the perfect depth. I did notice from your pics that it looks like you could use some wax on your paint though
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
That looks great man. Seems like all too many Camaros and Formula have the exhaust tips sticking way the hell out, and it looks terrible.

Yours has the perfect depth. I did notice from your pics that it looks like you could use some wax on your paint though
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On the subject of single or twin exhaust tips, I was just thinking, would a straight through muffler with one outlet on the left flow better than a crossflow? I would think less bends means better flow, right? I wouldn't mind having the exhaust exit just on the left if it meant better exhaust flow.
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I've got a 4" sleeper exhaust setup.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/565945-3-ory-4-i-pipe-cutout-into-slp-dual-dual-pics.html


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