SLP Headers. Are they reallly that bad?
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From: Philly
Originally Posted by orangeapeel
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even remotely be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
Now, you sound like a completely different person than the one that posted your first comment. You left out a few key things to show your results. This post makes the first one obsolete IMO now. Glad to see you knew what you were talking about afterall. I am here to protect people from childish things that people/kids say on here, and you just fell suspect with 6 posts and new registration. I wasn't meaning to attack you. Thank you for coming back and defending your case.
Seriously though, Perhaps a better way I would answer the initiating gentlemans question is; In my opinion while the SLP's are fine.. they aren't the best possible choice especially in a car that is or will be being extensively built. They had horrible clearance issues which IF they had been absolutely the best performing headers - I would have lived with but.... the Kooks just made more power given the rest of my build. To me - it was a no-brainer. spend 10k on a motor build and not put in the headers making the most power
In the past week, it looks like I may have toasted my motor and am probably putting in a 427. These headers will go back to Kooks largely due to the fact that the coating came off. How Stainless Steel headers rusted and shed the ceramic coating is beyond me but... they did.
I will need different ones for the 427.
I fully expect Kooks will stand by their product as far as the current set but I will report back on that issue also.
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And all along, I thought the SLP's had 80-90 HP in them.....damn..guess I won't get any...was actually thinking of bending up some POLISHED copper pipe in the first place anyway... 
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Alright ladies, here are the picks that you have all been waiting for me to post. My '02 WS6 on a lowered Eibach Pro Kit with, you guessed it, SLP Longtubes!!! I have had these pics for a while, I just had not seen anyone bring up the topic. I had to put the tubes and Borla all together with the bolts loose. Then I took my jack and raised the y-pipes as high as they would go. Then I tightened all the bolts. Before I used the jack, the pipes were touching the floor!!! Check it out. I also added a pic of my wifes Solstice GXP just for the heel of it.
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Ok...
All LT's perform nearly the same... MAYBE +/- 3 or 5 rwhp. what your paying for when you buy them is what they are made out of, and who they are made by.
Kooks are stainless and last forever, thats why they are $805.
Pacesetters are just ceramic coated and may only last 5 years. Thats why they are $375.
SLP's aren't that great, not stainless, and their price tag is prolly a little higher than it should be because they are "SLP"
Hookers are good in-betweens.
In my eyes there were only 2 choices when buying my headers....Kooks or Pacesetters. I know people who have Kooks and their car doesn't impress me, and I know people with Pacesetters that had a huge pull difference. I chose pacesetter, they are a tried and true LT with good gains, good quality, easy fit, and good clearence. Everything you get with a Kook with the exception of stainless steel at less than 1/2 the price.
Unless your talking steeped headers, then your talkin a lil more gain and it would be Kooks all the way.
All LT's perform nearly the same... MAYBE +/- 3 or 5 rwhp. what your paying for when you buy them is what they are made out of, and who they are made by.
Kooks are stainless and last forever, thats why they are $805.
Pacesetters are just ceramic coated and may only last 5 years. Thats why they are $375.
SLP's aren't that great, not stainless, and their price tag is prolly a little higher than it should be because they are "SLP"
Hookers are good in-betweens.
In my eyes there were only 2 choices when buying my headers....Kooks or Pacesetters. I know people who have Kooks and their car doesn't impress me, and I know people with Pacesetters that had a huge pull difference. I chose pacesetter, they are a tried and true LT with good gains, good quality, easy fit, and good clearence. Everything you get with a Kook with the exception of stainless steel at less than 1/2 the price.
Unless your talking steeped headers, then your talkin a lil more gain and it would be Kooks all the way.
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From: reykjavík, iceland
i installed lt's in two camaros this summer,
pacesetter in my car, and slp in my friends car, an the slp just got stupid ground clearance, no way i would lower that car,
i was much happyer with my pacesetter, good ground clearence and looked awesome
pacesetter in my car, and slp in my friends car, an the slp just got stupid ground clearance, no way i would lower that car,
i was much happyer with my pacesetter, good ground clearence and looked awesome
Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
And all along, I thought the SLP's had 80-90 HP in them.....damn..guess I won't get any...was actually thinking of bending up some POLISHED copper pipe in the first place anyway...
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Originally Posted by CaptainSS1
they were installed first and the Kooks after much more was done to the motor.
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From: georgetown tx
[QUOTE=SchultzLT1;7762762]Ok...
SLP's aren't that great, not stainless, and their price tag is prolly a little higher than it should be because they are "SLP"
SLP's are stainless, and coated , they are cheaper than kooks( last I checked ) The ground clearance is the only issue I have had with mine . They bolted right up and the cats and y pipe fit . First high speed run on a back road and one of the tubes on the pass. side and both converters have a flat spot on the bottoms. The tube is almost thru I think!! The seat of the pants torque increase was great. I don't know if I would buy them again . Maybe just the pass side!!!
SLP's aren't that great, not stainless, and their price tag is prolly a little higher than it should be because they are "SLP"
SLP's are stainless, and coated , they are cheaper than kooks( last I checked ) The ground clearance is the only issue I have had with mine . They bolted right up and the cats and y pipe fit . First high speed run on a back road and one of the tubes on the pass. side and both converters have a flat spot on the bottoms. The tube is almost thru I think!! The seat of the pants torque increase was great. I don't know if I would buy them again . Maybe just the pass side!!!
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I installed Hooker LTs on a friends WS6, and even though the install seemed a bit harder than that of my SLPs they don't hand at all. We lowered the car after and it was as if we installed nothing. I say get them if your real low on cash and someone is selling them dirt cheap, but you got the money to spend or you can save a bit more get something else.
-Joel
-Joel
im running pacesetters and very happy with them. but i didnt go with slp cuz of the ground clearance. i think GMHTP should do a header head to head comparison!! i think on a GTO the slp gained 50rwhp!!!!
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From: Cedar Rapids,IA
Have SLP's. Coated and stainless steel. Been on the car since they were introduced to the market 6 or seven years ago. Bounced them on a speed bump once in that time frame. Car is lowered roughly an inch. As good a header as any of them out there. Dyno numbers mean nothing unless you've dyno'd with 2 sets of headers on the same day on the same car. Car to car dyno's vary so those kind of comparisons don't fly. I admit they hang lower than other headers. So that would be an issue depending on where you drive. But I my headers don't bang on the floor board either. 
I'm carefull on speed bumps since I bounced them that one time after I installed them. Plus they came with a stainless 3 in. Y-pipe.
I'm carefull on speed bumps since I bounced them that one time after I installed them. Plus they came with a stainless 3 in. Y-pipe. 
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