What's the real difference in Kooks, QTP, ARH ?
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where's cocoa puff when you need him? or is it creme puff? or maybe it's choco puff? whatever, you know, the real EXPERT on everything....i'm sure it's just a matter of time until he posts his pacesetter vs. qtp graph....lol
for the OP, i can tell you that i have ARH and wouldn't do anything different. the fitment is just as everyone claims and they went in without removing anything extra and there were no issues with k-members, etc. ground clearance is better than stock! no, i haven't compared them to qtp or kook's but i couldn't be happier with arh, just my .02...
for the OP, i can tell you that i have ARH and wouldn't do anything different. the fitment is just as everyone claims and they went in without removing anything extra and there were no issues with k-members, etc. ground clearance is better than stock! no, i haven't compared them to qtp or kook's but i couldn't be happier with arh, just my .02...
Wow great thread so far, lol. I posted this yesterday when I got home from drill and just check it today when I got home. Didn't really expect to much from anyone, boy was I wrong. Started a little debate about the whole who makes who and yadda yadda yadda. 
Yea I guess I'm down between ARH and Kooks now, since QTP doesn't offer 1 7/8" x 3" anymore. Either way I'm sure I'll be happy which ever way I decide to go with.
Yea I guess I'm down between ARH and Kooks now, since QTP doesn't offer 1 7/8" x 3" anymore. Either way I'm sure I'll be happy which ever way I decide to go with.
Kooks all the way. the last 2 sets of QTP's i instaleld we had ot clearance the stock k-member to get them to fit without banging at idle. there advise was to change ther motormounts..... after changing them it still banged. We bolted a used set of kooks up with no issue. I have had MAC,QTP,JET HOT, SLP and KOOKS on my car and the Kooks are by far the best design and have the best fit and finish! they actually take the time to grind any bumps or weld spots on the inside of the primary unlike some of the other companies!
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
ok for the sake of argument say they did make them. which im still saying they didnt. #1 why the hell would u go on a public forum and tell this "hush hush" secret? and #2 why would kooks design a better header for their competitor and then make it cheaper? if u compare the hvmc qtp vs a 1/34 kooks the qtp will out perform it everytime. is it going to be 20 hp? hell no. will it be 1 or 2 yes. but its the point. thats like chevy building a car for ford that will outperform theirs..........
Not it wount! The kooks make the best power i have seen thats why they are on my car!
ok for the sake of argument say they did make them. which im still saying they didnt. #1 why the hell would u go on a public forum and tell this "hush hush" secret? and #2 why would kooks design a better header for their competitor and then make it cheaper? if u compare the hvmc qtp vs a 1/34 kooks the qtp will out perform it everytime. is it going to be 20 hp? hell no. will it be 1 or 2 yes. but its the point. thats like chevy building a car for ford that will outperform theirs..........
or could it be like gm designing the T/A and the camaro? both sister cars but one performs a tad better?
im not trying to talk crap on anyone or cause trouble but i think he could be right, i mean its not uncommon that companies do this. it just gives them a lil advantage over the market having 2 vs 1 in the same market =) but thats just my .02
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I have the QTPs and had a problem with the K-member. I fixed it; no big deal. The Y-pipe is a pain though (mostly because of the SLP SFCs though) but has a nice merge collector. I've had non-HVMC QTPs on the car (without one bit of clearance problems) and MACs (what a PITA in install and remove) and have to admit after hearing about the nice little finishing touches (like grinding and cleaning up) makes the ARHs sound more appealling. Attention to detail, like that, IMHO makes a product that is very appealing to an enthusiast.
I don't regret my QTPs but with other stainless LTs out there it would definately make the decision a little tougher.
Good luck.
I don't regret my QTPs but with other stainless LTs out there it would definately make the decision a little tougher.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by DarkJuggalo
or could it be like gm designing the T/A and the camaro? both sister cars but one performs a tad better?
im not trying to talk crap on anyone or cause trouble but i think he could be right, i mean its not uncommon that companies do this. it just gives them a lil advantage over the market having 2 vs 1 in the same market =) but thats just my .02
im not trying to talk crap on anyone or cause trouble but i think he could be right, i mean its not uncommon that companies do this. it just gives them a lil advantage over the market having 2 vs 1 in the same market =) but thats just my .02
Originally Posted by DarkJuggalo
or could it be like gm designing the T/A and the camaro? both sister cars but one performs a tad better?
im not trying to talk crap on anyone or cause trouble but i think he could be right, i mean its not uncommon that companies do this. it just gives them a lil advantage over the market having 2 vs 1 in the same market =) but thats just my .02
im not trying to talk crap on anyone or cause trouble but i think he could be right, i mean its not uncommon that companies do this. it just gives them a lil advantage over the market having 2 vs 1 in the same market =) but thats just my .02
Originally Posted by Soul TKR
why would I go on a public forum and tell this hush hush secret?
- I don't work for Kooks, nor am I in the business anymore... what do I have to gain/loose... nothing, just passing along information that might be helpfull in some cases that I gathered when I was in the business...
- I don't work for Kooks, nor am I in the business anymore... what do I have to gain/loose... nothing, just passing along information that might be helpfull in some cases that I gathered when I was in the business...
back on topic. my vote is still for arh. saw a pair installed the other day and it just made me like them that much more.
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
thats one of the more arrogant things ive read in a while. hopefully u treat personal information a little more confidentialy or else u r going to have a long life with a lot of enemys.
back on topic. my vote is still for arh. saw a pair installed the other day and it just made me like them that much more.
back on topic. my vote is still for arh. saw a pair installed the other day and it just made me like them that much more.
you asked, I told... don't call it arrogant when you ask for an answer
you sound like you work for them or something
besides... I never said anything like their headers were crap! I've actually commended them very much on the quality and fit... Your acting like I'm bashing where i'm not...
Someone asked a question so I gave an answer... where as you just wanna seem to bitch and moan so as everyone knows your right when I have yet to see any proof otherwise... Not that I have given any proof, but I seem to have provided a lot more info than your hear say...
**** excuse me for making a comment... over something I personally was involved in...
Originally Posted by Soul TKR
you asked, I told... don't call it arrogant when you ask for an answer
you sound like you work for them or something
besides... I never said anything like their headers were crap! I've actually commended them very much on the quality and fit... Your acting like I'm bashing where i'm not...
Someone asked a question so I gave an answer... where as you just wanna seem to bitch and moan so as everyone knows your right when I have yet to see any proof otherwise... Not that I have given any proof, but I seem to have provided a lot more info than your hear say...
**** excuse me for making a comment... over something I personally was involved in...
you sound like you work for them or something
besides... I never said anything like their headers were crap! I've actually commended them very much on the quality and fit... Your acting like I'm bashing where i'm not...
Someone asked a question so I gave an answer... where as you just wanna seem to bitch and moan so as everyone knows your right when I have yet to see any proof otherwise... Not that I have given any proof, but I seem to have provided a lot more info than your hear say...
**** excuse me for making a comment... over something I personally was involved in...
AR's are the best, but you have to work at it to get them to shine real good. The intstall is stupid easy. All you have to do is cut off the casting tab on the driver's side. There are no vibrations or Y pipe issues to worry about. They also make great power- at least from what I can tell from the SOP. Great ground clearance too.
