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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Hey everyone. I found a kit from pacesetter that seems pretty bad ***. It's for 99 camaro(ls1). they are mid-tube (shorty) headers. you keep the cats in the stock location and it also comes with a 3" Y-pipe. the headers are ceramic coated, and i believe the Y is painted. you get all this for 480$ or so. Are shortys gonna give me just as much power gains as long tubes?? is this a good deal? If you guys could help me out, or even give me more info and advice, that'd be great. thanks fellas.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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I doubt the shorties are much better then the factory manifolds. If I were going thru the trouble to install headers, I would replace the stockers with longtubes...
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Go LT's....
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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well ****... how the hell do you guys run cats? you pretty much have to delete the cats if your gonna run long tubes, don't you. if not then where do you put them?
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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you can run cats with long tubes
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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well ****... how the hell do you guys run cats? you pretty much have to delete the cats if your gonna run long tubes, don't you. if not then where do you put them?
you get the small round ones...after the collector or about the same place on pass. side, and middle of door on dr. side...just get rid of them..if tuned right the engine is pretty efficient as is.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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will a diablo tuner eliminate the codes the computer will set because i'm not runnin any cats?
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Do you live in cali?
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SSChevy99
well ****... how the hell do you guys run cats? you pretty much have to delete the cats if your gonna run long tubes, don't you. if not then where do you put them?
In this case, you can't beat Magnaflow 59959's:


They work awesome:
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hey choco do you have any flanges in your exhaust? I see you have the cats welded straight to the collector on your headers, just thought that would make for a fairly hard in/uninstall with out a lift. Do your cats throw any codes?
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Shortys are an option if your worried about ground clearance. You will have some gains, but not as much as LTs. I guess it depends on your performance goals. As for the cats, if you can get away with tuning them out, and still passing emissions testing, then I wouldnt even worry about them. As for the Diablo tuner. No it will not delete the rear O2 codes. Only clear them temp.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
In this case, you can't beat Magnaflow 59959's:


They work awesome:
well if i buy LTs and put those high fow cats on behind, will a y-pipe go right be hind in the correct location? or will i have to do some mods?
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Originally Posted by SSChevy99
well if i buy LTs and put those high fow cats on behind, will a y-pipe go right be hind in the correct location? or will i have to do some mods?
The y-pipe would have to be modified. I would suggest getting a custom y-pipe fabbed up.
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hey choco do you have any flanges in your exhaust? I see you have the cats welded straight to the collector on your headers, just thought that would make for a fairly hard in/uninstall with out a lift. Do your cats throw any codes?
His whole exhaust is welded. Do a search for his original post.
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Your best bet is to find someone that will put those IN the Y pipe and not welded to the LTs. Just for future mods/dropping the tranny and such. Wouldnt be hard for a exhaust shop to weld those in the Y for you. I wouldnt have an entirely welded system like Chocos for that reason alone. No offense meant here either Choco.
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thanks for all the help fellas! but what exactly do you mean it would have to be out IN the y pipe? and can my o2 sensors be put back.
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I would just have a shop cut a section of the Y out, and place the highflows in there. That way you can still drop the Y out for tranny work without cutting/rewelding. O2s will still be ok.
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Originally Posted by BaddillaK
hey choco do you have any flanges in your exhaust? I see you have the cats welded straight to the collector on your headers, just thought that would make for a fairly hard in/uninstall with out a lift. Do your cats throw any codes?
No flanges, sadly. They're welded in. I made an assumption the shop would put clamps or flanges, that's what I get for assuming

I had the codes deleted so I don't throw any codes. Otherwise, I'd have an SES light. When it's time to uninstall, I'll just get them cut off and add flanges then.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SSChevy99
well if i buy LTs and put those high fow cats on behind, will a y-pipe go right be hind in the correct location? or will i have to do some mods?
My y-pipe is completely custom. You'll have to make your own if you want to use those cats...either that or get a prefabricated ORY and weld them in afterwards.

My cats are NOT in the stock location.
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