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Old 01-01-2008, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackZ28629
yeah...C5R =/= LS1...and whoever said that the ZL1 car came with an LS6? Who got ripped off and paid $125K for an LS6 car..thought they were all 650HP
C5R's...
If we are talking about the GMMG 2002 ZL1, everybody associated with the project said the ZL1 came with an LS6.
ZL1 Phase 1: LS6 - approx $56k
ZL1 Phase 2: Head and cam LS6 - not sure about price - maybe $63-74k?
ZL1 Phase 3: C5R - approx $96k

Anybody who paid $125k for any 2002 ZL1 got ripped off. A lot of the people who had the Phase 1 and Phase 2 cars returned them to GMMG to be upgraded to the Phase 3 configuration.

All the ZL1s started life as B4C Special Service Coupes (police cars, basically debadged Z-28s).
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Is an LT5 an LT1?

Hey Steve, long time no see. We met in Vegas Super Chevy in 02. I had a white 02 SS.
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Originally Posted by ArrestMeRedZ
Now it's getting confusing. Some 2001 and a lot of 2002 F-bodies got the LS6 block in their cars. Some/most/all of the non-Z06 'vettes in those years did also. They were still called LS1 engines by GM, since they didn't have the LS6 heads, cam, and high speed [external] balance treatment. So it's correct to call those LS6 blocks LS1 engines. In that case, calling the engine after the block wouldn't match GM's naming convention.

Steve's solution is the right one.
Yes it is. Very confusing.

I am not sure what I would call my engine then? It started as a 2003 Corvette Coupe. So that was an LS1 engine, but it was an LS6 block, LS1 cam, heads, LS1TB but LS6 manifold. All Stock.

I changed to PP 243 castings ( LS6 heads) differnt cam, PP TPIS TB, plus a host of other stuff.
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Why not just call it "Meanest GEN III Engine Ever"
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Anymore (unless talking about my car specificaly) I just refer to all of the engines as 'LSX' to just about anyone but other knowledgable GM guys.
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Originally Posted by ssheets
Is an LT5 an LT1?

Hey Steve, long time no see. We met in Vegas Super Chevy in 02. I had a white 02 SS.

How's it going? Now that I have a car done, again, maybe we will meet up at another event.
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
How's it going? Now that I have a car done, again, maybe we will meet up at another event.
That would be a good thing. I'd love to see the Penny

My LE is doing well too. Just got done with the head and cam swap and a long day of detailing.

Did you go to the unveiling? I was there, it was a blast. A great memory for sure in the land of Camaros.
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
That's why I use LSx for LS1, LS2, etc and LSX for the new block.. at least it helps some of the confusion.
Thats what I do as well, seems to work the best. I think its cool you can put lsxtech.com and it still works.



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