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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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any one have any problems with blowing header gaskets with tsp td's?...

i have kooks 1 3/4 headers flanged(3 bolt), and the TSP kit flanged(3 bolt) and welded up.
I've been having problems with blowing the driver side header gasket. was wondering if its from where the td kit hangs on the header...
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Try torquing the header down properly if you aren't already. Start from inside bolt out, alternating sides, 11ft-lbs 1st pass, 22ft-lbs second pass. What gaskets are you using? When you torque down the header, remove the TDs and try it, then just bolt the duals up and go from there.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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i have used fel-pros, percy's carbons, and new stockers...

i torque them from inside out, run the car for 2-3 mins let it cool the re torque them...but td's are attached..im gonna take the td's off tomorrow and check over all the welds on them to see if theres a leak there and im gonna remove the header to make sure there isn't a stress crack somewhere, might as well check the flange trueness aswell....
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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when you installed the TDs did you try to force the tips up higher at the rear to try to gain more clearance? i noticed that when i tried to tuck them up higher it stressed the headers and i could see the headers flex, so i just mounted the mufflers so that i didnt have any stress on the headers......

also i recommend using the stock metal gaskets over the crappy papper ones.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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arnt the duals ment for pacesetter hooker and flowtech or w/e
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1-NAVY
arnt the duals ment for pacesetter hooker and flowtech or w/e
i was going to use them with Kooks headers will they work?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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if there ment for crappy pacesetters, then there shouldn't be any problems with kooks...

never used a paper gasket... when i mounted them they had dynomax bullets, i removed the dynomax's and put spiral flows on it so i had just welded the hangers so i could allow for more clearance. everything seems to be level. just has always puzzled me how the whole exhaust is held by two rear hangers...
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Did you have to pry it into place? If so you might have some side load that is contributing to its failure.
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I have noticed that header bolts loosen more, and gaskets blow more with True Duals. It could be coincidence, but the more the exhaust scraped the ground the more often the bolts loosen and gaskets blow.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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hmmm.. cut the flanges off of both of them and have the exhaust pipe expanded so it will slide over header collector... get some nice stainless band clamps and have no more issues...EVER!!
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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i had more problems with them slip fit, than i have had with the flanges...
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Hmmmm, your headers could possibly be warped & be a contributing factor for the frequently blown gaskets too.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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yea that has crossed my mind too, im taking the driver side out tomorrow when i finally work on it...
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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well i found the problem, the flange is warpped in between #5 & #7... anyone know of a way to fix this other then having the flange resurfaced??? that header is a P.I.T.A. to remove and install
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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well even with my "crappy" pacesetter headers and TSP true duals... i havent had a gasket blow out. had them on for over 30,000 miles.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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well when you don't retorque the bolts when you do the initial install (me being an idiot), then drive an hour and a half to the track run 2 times, blow the gasket. Then have to drive home with the gasket blown and the bolt loose. I should have known it was warped i just neglected to check it. So hear i am 4 header gaskets later.....

pacesetters are still crap....
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