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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Default Ported FAST 90 intake vs LS6 intake dyno comparison

I've done this many times on high compression applications, but never on a 9.2:1 compression motor running 87 octane. The following dyno comparison is on my 2000 TA with a forged 347, 9.2:1 static compression, AFR 225 heads, and 224/230 .609/.604 113LSA +2 turbo cam. With help from 98Aggie (Kurt Decker), we baseline dynoed the car with an optimally tuned motor running an LS6 intake, factory 78mm TB and 85mm MAF. While the car was still on the dyno, we swapped to the Tony Mamo ported FAST 90 intake and Nick Williams 90mm throttle body. Same day, same dyno.

As usual, the Mamofied FAST lost nothing down low, but gained nicely in the upper ranges. The baseline dyno was 425 rwhp/405 rwtq. The after dyno was 449 rwhp/414 rwtq. A gain of 24 rwhp and 9 in torque. I've seen higher gains with 11.5:1 motors, but I was curious to see if the gains would work on a 9.2:1 motor. It did. Not surprising, my KPa at WOT improved with the intake/TB swap. Before, my manifold pressure would drop from 101KPa to 94KPa at WOT at peak power. Now, the pressure only drops from 101KPa to 97KPa. An improvement of 3KPa mean the engine is pulling less of a vacuum at WOT. Less intake restriction. Hats off to Tony Mamo for another great manifold.

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That's impressive. I'm wondering for my own situation what the gains would have been with the factory 75mm maf in place of the 85mm version. I guess if the stock throttle body was more of a restriction, that the maf wouldn't have been the source of flow restriction.

I'm hoping that I see the same gains as you. I don't have the AFRs, but my compression is slightly higher, around 11.2:1.

Quite impressive, thanks for posting this.
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I also like that you dyno'd from 2500rpm and up. It's good to see that rather than the typical 4000-7000 that people post.
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Did you keep the 85mm MAF in place or go with your lid and bellows for the pull?
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More proof that the FAST (especially ported) is the choice.
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Did you keep the 85mm MAF in place or go with your lid and bellows for the pull?
The 85mm MAF, stock bellows and UPD lid (with paper Fram filter) was used on both pulls. The swap was literally done on the dyno. The LS6 pulls were with an optimally tuned motor. The FAST was done with a quick tune. I'm sure with more time, we could have sqeaked 1 or 2 more ponies out of it.
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nice numbers
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OK, I didn't know you went back to a MAF recently. Nice gains.
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