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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Okay I put on my pacesetters saturday and it took like 10 hours. Everything was going very smoothly and I had all the stock stuff off within like 3 hours. I changed the plugs to denso iridiums (they didnt have ngk's in stock) and got new wires. I now have several problems though.

-I got the headers from speedtweekerz.com (theyre a sponsor) and they sent me the ones with egr even though theyre supposed to be 00-02? they came with a blockoff plate but that stupid tube got in the way when getting the two middle passenger header bolts in

-The 2nd from the rear header bolt will not go in all the way and I am afraid I will strip it if I try to force it. The other bolts all went in all the way using my fingers and I just had to torque them down with my gear wrench the rest of the way. There are no leaks from the ports but the 2nd bolt is sticking out. Any reason why it wouldnt line up if the rest are all the way torqued down?

-The oil dipstick tube is still out. How the hell do I get it back in? I got under the car and had my friend try to push it in while i guided it into the slot. He was putting a lot of force on it and it wouldnt budge. help please?

-I was getting multiple cylinder misfire, which I linked to a plug coming off the coil pack, and went away after I plugged it back in. Now it seems like it's back. I think it is from the wire to plug connection. Is there an easier way to make sure it is on the plug all the way? some of them are hard to reach to put enough force on to push them down

-Also, for those of you wondering about lt installs, you dont really have to jack the car up all that high. I used my jack with 3 2x4's between it and the k member, so it was like a 6x4 I guess between them. That was plenty of lift to install the headers, no cynder blocks under jackstands, none of that. the only thing I would suggest is to cut off the y before you start the install so it doesnt mess up any alignment on the drivers side.

Please help me so I can get my car back into prime condition again. btw I dont have cats and straight lt's are way louder than I thought. I almost went deaf running it on the expressway, seriously ear shattering. I am on the market for some tsp td's now. Thanks
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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For the bolt problem, try loosening all the other bolts then get that one started and tight them all up a little at a time.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Okay I put on my pacesetters saturday and it took like 10 hours. Everything was going very smoothly and I had all the stock stuff off within like 3 hours. I changed the plugs to denso iridiums (they didnt have ngk's in stock) and got new wires. I now have several problems though.

1.-I got the headers from speedtweekerz.com (theyre a sponsor) and they sent me the ones with egr even though theyre supposed to be 00-02? they came with a blockoff plate but that stupid tube got in the way when getting the two middle passenger header bolts in

2.-The 2nd from the rear header bolt will not go in all the way and I am afraid I will strip it if I try to force it. The other bolts all went in all the way using my fingers and I just had to torque them down with my gear wrench the rest of the way. There are no leaks from the ports but the 2nd bolt is sticking out. Any reason why it wouldnt line up if the rest are all the way torqued down?

3.-The oil dipstick tube is still out. How the hell do I get it back in? I got under the car and had my friend try to push it in while i guided it into the slot. He was putting a lot of force on it and it wouldnt budge. help please?

4.-I was getting multiple cylinder misfire, which I linked to a plug coming off the coil pack, and went away after I plugged it back in. Now it seems like it's back. I think it is from the wire to plug connection. Is there an easier way to make sure it is on the plug all the way? some of them are hard to reach to put enough force on to push them down

5.-Also, for those of you wondering about lt installs, you dont really have to jack the car up all that high. I used my jack with 3 2x4's between it and the k member, so it was like a 6x4 I guess between them. That was plenty of lift to install the headers, no cynder blocks under jackstands, none of that. the only thing I would suggest is to cut off the y before you start the install so it doesnt mess up any alignment on the drivers side.

Please help me so I can get my car back into prime condition again. btw I dont have cats and straight lt's are way louder than I thought. I almost went deaf running it on the expressway, seriously ear shattering. I am on the market for some tsp td's now. Thanks

1. my pacesetters came the same way even though i ordered for my 01.

2. is the bolt in straight? if its not you can leave it out. i would take the bolt out and check the hole for any derbis. if it still doesnt go in all the way and youve made sure there is nothing in the hole you could put some washers on it and snug it up. or leave it out if it doesnt leak. i had a hard time with one of the middle bolts and just left it out, no leaks.

3. line it up and push it in. when reinstalling try to keep the tube as close to the installed position as possible, then push.

4. do you have a fancy plug install tool, might help. are you sure you didnt chip/damage a plug?
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Sounds like your entire install turned into an abortion.
Check for a fouled plug and loosen all bolts halfway on the affected side. Start the messed up one by hand and be patient.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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well the misfire problem is solved, a wire on the driver side was loose. now my o2's are acting up but thats no big deal. I am letting the car cool now to put the dipstick tube back in. I dont see how it turned into an abortion considering I did it all in my driveway with hand tools by myself. thanks for the help though and the quick replys. I just have to do something about the noise fast, its not even a good loud, its just fcking loud. my neighbor even said something to me about it a few minutes ago.

oh and about the bolt that wont go in, we tried to do that bolt first and we tried loosening all the other bolts and then putting that bolt in but nothing worked. I was thinking the same thing about something maybe being in the bolt hole. Maybe a piece of gasket or something? This weekend I will probably take off the coil packs again and blow come compressed air in there or use a pipe cleaner in there or something. Like I said, theres no leak but it drives me crazy when something isnt perfect.

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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well the misfire problem is solved, a wire on the driver side was loose. now my o2's are acting up but thats no big deal. I am letting the car cool now to put the dipstick tube back in. I dont see how it turned into an abortion considering I did it all in my driveway with hand tools by myself. thanks for the help though and the quick replys. I just have to do something about the noise fast, its not even a good loud, its just fcking loud. my neighbor even said something to me about it a few minutes ago.

oh and about the bolt that wont go in, we tried to do that bolt first and we tried loosening all the other bolts and then putting that bolt in but nothing worked. I was thinking the same thing about something maybe being in the bolt hole. Maybe a piece of gasket or something? This weekend I will probably take off the coil packs again and blow come compressed air in there or use a pipe cleaner in there or something. Like I said, theres no leak but it drives me crazy when something isnt perfect.

Have you tried using a different bolt or one from another hole? The bolt could be bad. I understand what you're saying about getting everything right. You don't want to have to do this whole thing over again bc of one bolt.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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well the misfire problem is solved, a wire on the driver side was loose. now my o2's are acting up but thats no big deal. I am letting the car cool now to put the dipstick tube back in. I dont see how it turned into an abortion considering I did it all in my driveway with hand tools by myself. thanks for the help though and the quick replys. I just have to do something about the noise fast, its not even a good loud, its just fcking loud. my neighbor even said something to me about it a few minutes ago.

oh and about the bolt that wont go in, we tried to do that bolt first and we tried loosening all the other bolts and then putting that bolt in but nothing worked. I was thinking the same thing about something maybe being in the bolt hole. Maybe a piece of gasket or something? This weekend I will probably take off the coil packs again and blow come compressed air in there or use a pipe cleaner in there or something. Like I said, theres no leak but it drives me crazy when something isnt perfect.
with the pipe cleaner, get it in as far as you can without bending it and compare that distance to the length of the bolt. i would also try a small screwdriver since the pipe cleaner will bend if something is stuck.

what exhaust do you have on the car now? i had an lm1 on mine when i did my LT's and it was WAY too loud. i welded in a proflow twister muffler in place of the lm1 resonator and that brought it to a decent level with good sound.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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the oil dipstick tube is a biotch to get back in....just have someone under the car guiding it, while someone pushes/wiggles the tube around. Also, make sure you have in going down in the right area, I tried for like 45 min. until I realized it went on the other side of one of the primaries.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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wow sounds like a really frustrating install
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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yeah the install was weird. all the things I thought were going to take the most time I prepared for and they went smoothly, but then the little things really blew my initial time frame for the install.

I tried using stock bolts and bolts pacesetter supplied. I thought maybe the bolt was bad so I used several different bolts, all soaked to hell with wd-40. I stuck a nail in there initially, thats how i made sure the bolt holes were pretty much aligned, and it didnt have any trouble going in fairly deep. I am guessing the threading to the head is just gunked up or something, so i am just going to get a some steel pipe cleaner or something like that to clean up the threading.

as for the dipstick tube, I have been driving it around without the tube in (no choice right now as it's my only transportation to work/school) and just babying it trying not to get too much crankcase pressure to force oil out. The underside is covered in oil though from it coming out, but the low oil light hasn't come on and pressure is fine. I have 2 qts of royal p just in case anything happens. I plan on getting the dipstick in either tommorow or thursday, but I have been going to school/working 6am-11pm because of midterms and projects.

thanks for all the help.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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dude, get that dipstick tube on ASAP...oil going out isn't the biggest problem, its all the crap that can be going IN that opening. Dust, dirt, rocks, water....good way to toast a motor, not to mention all the oil that is now on the underside of your car....that stuff is a PITA to get off, especially after it gets on the exhaust and burns itself on there.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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this sort of thing gives me cold sweats in the nights leading up to a car purchase...
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