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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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I have had pacesetter's on my car 3 years now and i love them. When my car was stock i dynoed it everytime i did something to it and stock it put down 315 rwhp and after the headers and y pipe 357 rwhp. They have also helped me achieve 453 rwhp cam only! Just my .02
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i had the chance to get kooks or QTP, but instead i went with pacesetters. its a good header. kinda funny why people think they are junk. you can pretty much get your basic boltons with pacesetters for the price of kooks and QTP. yes im sure the kooks and QTP might make a few more hp, but for the price. ill stick with my pacesetters.



ill probably get flamed for this but go on the for sale section. look at some of those "STAINLESS STEEL" headers that every raves about. most of them look like **** too.. a shinier header doesnt mean its gonna be that much faster. if mines rust then it rust, oh well. its not a damn show car anyways..
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Pacesetter headers are excellent headers for the money. It's the Y-pipe that is a piece of ****. I would be embarrassed to sell that Y-pipe if I was a professional exhaust company.

Headers themselves work great w/ true duals or a customer made 3 inch Y.
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Originally Posted by Pntbll309
3100 posts on here and you cant figure out the better route? XS stainless headers is obviously a better route. Better materials for a way better price. And does it really matter if they were purchased from Ebay, here or SSautochromes website? Narrow minded idiot.
Hey, how about you wash the sand out of your VAGINA you broad!!! His comment sure got under your skin huh? HAHAHA!
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Originally Posted by Pntbll309
3100 posts on here and you cant figure out the better route? XS stainless headers is obviously a better route. Better materials for a way better price. And does it really matter if they were purchased from Ebay, here or SSautochromes website? Narrow minded idiot.
LOL, nut swing much?
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Pacesetter headers are excellent headers for the money. It's the Y-pipe that is a piece of ****. I would be embarrassed to sell that Y-pipe if I was a professional exhaust company.

Headers themselves work great w/ true duals or a customer made 3 inch Y.
When I order my Pacesetters I'll be getting a TSP ORY. They seem to fit better than the piece of junk Pacesetter sells. And they are roughly the same price.
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IMHO any long tube header will give you good results, so go with the one you feel is right for you, not what everyone else thinks
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There are people making higher numbers than you using pacesetters and comparable mods. Are they really garbage? Could you fab up a better set? Don't associate price with quality too much. Remember what you learned in High School economics about supply and demand.
Thats a totally idiotic quote.

When a person buys a header there is more then price and when you take in all factors you pay for what you get, a cheap header = cheap quality.

LS1's are known to vary in power quite a bit and that can explain the "few" that may have done better.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dhpewterz
I have had pacesetter's on my car 3 years now and i love them. When my car was stock i dynoed it everytime i did something to it and stock it put down 315 rwhp and after the headers and y pipe 357 rwhp. They have also helped me achieve 453 rwhp cam only! Just my .02
Holy ****!!! What cam are you running??? AND stock heads!? Just curious.
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I run Pacesetters and have no complaints The car is a DD in the good weather months. I have uncoated headers and they still have no rust on them. A friend of mine installed his coated Pacesetters at the same time and his are already turning that goldish color. I'm not saying coated is bad because they are clearly better but if your on a tight budget painted are not a bad option either.
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Originally Posted by plaf713
IMHO any long tube header will give you good results, so go with the one you feel is right for you, not what everyone else thinks
+1

IMHO, most people are going to try to justify the purchase of the parts they've obtained by justifying them in some way or another. I think you should consider what your goals are: how long are you keeping the car?, stainless is a good option because they'll last longer than coated; how much $$$ do you have? Pacesetters have got to be near the best bang for the buck; are you lowered?, maybe ground clearance will be an issue and three-inch Y-pipes won't be a good option; do you care about how they look?, polished stainless looks good as long as it's polished and cleaned-they'll discolor to a gold to bronze color after a few heat cycles while coated headers will retain their finish until they begin to rust; what kind of environment will the car be used in?, is there road salt or do you live near an ocean-if so, stainless will have more durability than coated because the coating will eventually flake.

Yeah, I've had two sets of QTPs (standard and HVMCs) but I'm not going to try to sway you to stainless. If you don't keep your car longer than a could years, the $1100+ for a complete LT/Y-pipe kit in stainless isn't likely worth the money over some coated Hookers or Pacesetters. Hooker and Edelbrock also have started offering stainless too. You aren't going to get too much more power from one to another, for the most part, among all of them. HVMCs are cool except it is said that they aren't the end-all-be-all design because every engine requires different tuning in the placement of the collector so the same HVMC header to two different cars may not even net the same results because they are in different cars.

Sorry so long, but there are a lot of variables to consider.

Good luck.
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571rwhp/541tq through pacesetters here.
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LOL, nut swing much?

Wow a 12.7 from headers!! Holy **** those gave you like 300 gabillion HP... Considering a good tire and driver can get into the 12's. Im not saying Pacesetters are the worst out there, but if you could get a better product with better materials cheaper, then why not?
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Hey, how about you wash the sand out of your VAGINA you broad!!! His comment sure got under your skin huh? HAHAHA!
Wow if you thought that got under skin then you must not know me. His post wasnt even that offensive. Sand in the vagina? Couldnt come up with a better insult? When are you going to bring out the momma jokes?
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Originally Posted by Pntbll309
Wow a 12.7 from headers!! Holy **** those gave you like 300 gabillion HP... Considering a good tire and driver can get into the 12's. Im not saying Pacesetters are the worst out there, but if you could get a better product with better materials cheaper, then why not?


exactly!! pacesetters FTW!!!
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I bought mine used, with an x-pipe setup for $400 shipped. I'm happy. I just repainted them tonight with high-heat ceramic paint, and they're going on this weekend. i'm not too worried about rust because I don't take my car into the snow too often. Louisiana doesn't get much snow.
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Originally Posted by Damian
Pacesetter headers are excellent headers for the money. It's the Y-pipe that is a piece of ****. I would be embarrassed to sell that Y-pipe if I was a professional exhaust company.

Headers themselves work great w/ true duals or a customer made 3 inch Y.
Yahtzee!! Pacesetter headers are an excellent choice for at least 90% of the people that are modding their LS1's. With a good Y pipe the power differences between them and the other 1 3/4" primary headers are very would be minimal.
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Can't Go Wrong With Pacesetter Headers They Get The Job Done!
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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I am looking into buying some headers soon and am leaning towards LPP headers and pacesetters. I would rather get pacesetters to save $150 or so, but I have heard in several places that they can hamper your gains. I always read about switching from pacesetters to others headers and gaining 10+ rwhp. Can anyone give me some insight if any of this is true.
If you want to save "$150 or so", and if you do not plan to keep your car for a while, get the PC. Coated headers all eventually rust, no matter what the brand. If you want to keep your car for a long time, save your money and get some stainless ones. I have had both. Bang for the buck, pacesetters or other economical headers, especially if you want to do some other mods. Long term looks, stainless. Horsepower difference is negligible. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Pntbll309
Wow if you thought that got under skin then you must not know me. His post wasnt even that offensive. Sand in the vagina? Couldnt come up with a better insult? When are you going to bring out the momma jokes?
WOw what a gay comeback! Obviously I don't know you and I don't care to know you. You couldn't come up with a better insult?



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