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VIPERBLUELX Feb 29, 2008 05:46 PM

How's this ported TB look?
 
Should I do anything else to it or install it and go!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...n/DSCN1885.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...n/DSCN1886.jpg

Full-Force Feb 29, 2008 06:15 PM

Still needs enlarging just in front of the blade.

VIPERBLUELX Feb 29, 2008 06:23 PM

Thanks, I bought it used but it was done by Vengeance and I've only heard good things about their port work. I thought about epoxying that one area that's void.

Red99TA Feb 29, 2008 07:16 PM

It's not bad but they could've removed more material that's for sure. Stay away from the epoxy. It marginally (if at all) helps airflow and if that little piece lets loose do you really want it flying past one of your valves and into a cylinder? Oh and your sig says you have an H and an X pipe...how does that work?

SSChevy99 Feb 29, 2008 07:17 PM

knife edgein the throttle blade is a must.

Ron@Vengeance Mar 1, 2008 05:39 PM

You can do whatever else you want to, but you wont gain a single pony. We have tested this extensively.

Red99TA Mar 1, 2008 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance (Post 8830190)
You can do whatever else you want to, but you wont gain a single pony.

Wow someone sounds a little overly confident. I'm sure it would help at least a little bit to open up the front a little bit (there's a good amount of metal left right where the intake tube mounts). Doing this, cutting the bolts down to be flush along with knife-edging the blade WILL help. Now it may or may not be significant but that's another story.

badazz99ta Mar 1, 2008 05:46 PM

haha. im kinda interested in the h-pipe and x-pipe. but yeah, i would most definately stay away from epoxy. the risk is just too high.

studderin Mar 1, 2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by SSChevy99 (Post 8825057)
knife edgein the throttle blade is a must.

proof why you say that?

Ron@Vengeance Mar 1, 2008 09:43 PM

Im not overly confident in the least... I have simply ported THOUSANDS of throttlebodies and I have dyno tested ALL of the options... Knife edging/epoxy/removing half of the shaft etc etc... Removing more material from the TB can cause issues with high idle and has not shown ANY gains in throttle response or horsepower.


Originally Posted by Red99TA (Post 8830219)
Wow someone sounds a little overly confident. I'm sure it would help at least a little bit to open up the front a little bit (there's a good amount of metal left right where the intake tube mounts). Doing this, cutting the bolts down to be flush along with knife-edging the blade WILL help. Now it may or may not be significant but that's another story.


Pntbll309 Mar 2, 2008 12:32 AM

For one its filthy... The shaft should be cut in half. I look at it this way. IT lets in more air, it cant hurt. It doesnt look like much material was actually taken out. The face of the TB shoulda been knife edged as well....

But hey if it works fuck it.

Red99TA Mar 2, 2008 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance (Post 8831482)
Im not overly confident in the least... I have simply ported THOUSANDS of throttlebodies and I have dyno tested ALL of the options... Knife edging/epoxy/removing half of the shaft etc etc... Removing more material from the TB can cause issues with high idle and has not shown ANY gains in throttle response or horsepower.

I'm talking about material at the opening of the TB, not near the butterfly. You guys got it pretty flush in the blade area which is perfect. I know that if you take off too much there then you're going to get a high idle...I know b/c I screwed it up on one of the TB's that I ported! We're just saying that halfing the shaft, knife edging the blade, and cutting the bolts flush all help it's just not very significant as you found with your dyno testing of THOUSANDS of throttlebodies :D

Red99TA Mar 2, 2008 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Pntbll309 (Post 8832202)
The shaft should be cut in half.

The shaft is cut in half. ;)

WS6 Rampage Mar 2, 2008 06:51 AM

Thats a clean TB. Just throw it on.

VIPERBLUELX Mar 2, 2008 01:34 PM

Thanks for the info Ron, didn't mean to get a flame war started, I installed it and the throttle response is improved for sure.

studderin Mar 2, 2008 02:47 PM

knife edgesing the blade shows no gain. dyno tested

foreverzero Mar 2, 2008 03:57 PM

No to epoxy! I see this too many times ---> https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/873208-epoxied-ported-throttlebody.html

chrs1313 Mar 2, 2008 04:18 PM

half shaft the bottom shaft like i did...:secret:

LS1crazy01 Mar 2, 2008 08:43 PM

I know I noticed the difference when I put mine on.

Jantzer98SS Mar 2, 2008 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance (Post 8831482)
Im not overly confident in the least... I have simply ported THOUSANDS of throttlebodies and I have dyno tested ALL of the options... Knife edging/epoxy/removing half of the shaft etc etc... Removing more material from the TB can cause issues with high idle and has not shown ANY gains in throttle response or horsepower.

I don't agree. Removing half the shaft and knife edging will improve flow. It may not show any gains depending upon what the car needs. If the TB becomes the flow restriction, then I gurantee it will show a gain. If it flows more air, and it becomes LESS restrictive, it will make a difference. If you dont need the extra flow, it wont make a difference.


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