pacesetters
Staging Lane
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Ashland, KY
Re: pacesetters They are not bad. I am on a budget so I got the uncoated ones and I like them. They were an easy install, I did not run into any problems and I didn't have to totally disassemble the car. Took the starter off and took the plugs out and that was about it. Very pleased with the performance increase considering I am on stock heads and cam. I gained 2 tenths in the 1/8 on a not so great day. Haven't had a chance to run the 1/4 yet. I have a buddy that got the same headers and a Hot Cam and he was running 8.0's. Not bad all things considered.
Teching In
Joined: Jul 2003
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From: Cedar Hill, Texas
Re: pacesetters Saturday was my first time at the track after installing my Pacesetter headers and ORY pipe. My previous best run (under very similar weather conditions) was a 13.4 @104 mph with a 60' of 2.122 My new time with the Pacesetter install was a 13.2 @107 mph with a 60' of 2.125 I shaved .2 and added 3 mph.
12 Second Club
Joined: Oct 2002
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From: League City, Texas
Re: pacesetters is there anywhere i can find an installation guide or can somebody write something up for me because i really dont feel like paying more to have them installed than the headers themselves cost me
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On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Stevensville, MI
Re: pacesetters the y pipe I got form them is an absolute abortion. Nothing is bent right, pipes didn't even get flared to fit together! I ordered coasted, got noncoated. Took another 3 weeks for replacments. Emissions are placed in bad locations..plug wires hit them. If you dont have EGR, they do not supply you w/ the block off plates, no do they mention they are not provided. My coated headers came w/ the rare high performance option of a pencil sized hole for my O2's.
I can deal w/ the header flaws, but run quickly away from their Y pipe. I would of paid an extra couple hundred bucks for some hookers if I know I would of had these fitment/quality control problems.
I can deal w/ the header flaws, but run quickly away from their Y pipe. I would of paid an extra couple hundred bucks for some hookers if I know I would of had these fitment/quality control problems.
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TECH Fanatic
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: La Porte, TX
Re: pacesetters Well there is a bad apple in every bunch, All I know is that mine went in perfectly, with absolutely no fitment or quality issues. I think it has a lot to do with where you get them from. I've got them and I love them. No way in hell would I pay $900-$1200 for someone elses setup that might gain me an extra 3 hp. Just my .02
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 118
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From: Stevensville, MI
Re: pacesetters
I think it has a lot to do with where you get them from. I've got them and I love them.
I started the car today, w/ all the air lines removed but pump and selonoid still plugged in I did not get any SES codes. But when the air pump kicks on it sounds like a turbo spooling up. Its loud enough to hear over open headers. If it doesn't set a code, i'm gonna live w/ that for now.
If you get a good set, the install if very easy. Its the Bullshit that is time consuming. I had my front tires 19" off the ground and headers slid right in.
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From: La Porte, TX
Re: pacesetters I got mine directly from the manufacturer also! If you want to keep the air pump from coming on, just pull the relay...it is located behind the left headlight, by the a/c compressor and fuel pump relays.
Re: pacesetters
is there anywhere i can find an installation guide or can somebody write something up for me because i really dont feel like paying more to have them installed than the headers themselves cost me
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 118
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From: Stevensville, MI
Re: pacesetters
If you want to keep the air pump from coming on, just pull the relay...it is located behind the left headlight, by the a/c compressor and fuel pump relays.
Drove the car for first time today. W/ the headers, offroad y, and loudmouth I think it sounds like ***. Loud as ****, the sound is not clean at all....the little amount of rasp i had w/ the loudmouth before putting on the headers is nothing to what it sounds line now.
The car is a pig now. There is no power what so ever.
Re: pacesetters MUD, you may need some tuning to tweak the air/fuel maps, so if you go get the AIR stuff deleted have them tune it also. It is commonly accepted that the loudmouth exhaust does not sound good with headers. Put a Dynomax Race Magnum in place of the resonator and it will sound much better I think.
Re: pacesetters I love my Pacesetters only prob was they forgot to flair the Y pipe cut a little of went to auto parts store got 3" coupling and clamps worked great
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after 12.8 @ 111.30 w/slippin clutch
best ET b4 Headers 13.1 @ 107.77
after 12.8 @ 111.30 w/slippin clutch
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 118
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From: Stevensville, MI
Re: pacesetters
MUD, you may need some tuning to tweak the air/fuel maps, so if you go get the AIR stuff deleted have them tune it also. It is commonly accepted that the loudmouth exhaust does not sound good with headers. Put a Dynomax Race Magnum in place of the resonator and it will sound much better I think.
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Stevensville, MI
Re: pacesetters What lenght dynomax's would you recommend?? They are pretty cheap, i'll give them a try.
the 16.5"-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=WLK%2D24222
or the 23.5-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=WLK%2D24219
the 16.5"-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=WLK%2D24222
or the 23.5-
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=WLK%2D24219
Re: pacesetters That 16.5" version should work very well. I think they have a 12" version also if you want the exhaust to be a little bit louder.
Good luck, and let us know how it sounds and feels after you get the muffler and the intake mods.
Good luck, and let us know how it sounds and feels after you get the muffler and the intake mods.