Anyone know where I can get 02 Simulators for the Ls1?? I have the off road pipes from mufflex i got from a friend who never used em.

 

just have someone local tune the rear O2's out and save some $$

 

Even with O2 sims you may still get the SES light. It's better to just get them tuned out.

 

Ummmm no you won't. Unless he deleted the A.I.R or E.G.R.

 

I know you said that you "may get a light" but you shouldn't. I had them on my SS for years before LS1Edit was even out. They work.

 

Oh well that's what i read on 1 of the stickies that you may get a light still. So idk, just going with what ive read on here before.

Also, you can get O2 sims from WS6Store.com

 

sure do.....ME!

they quit making these because Casper electronics was sued for making them.
but yes, they work, no codes.

 

If emissions play any part of your decision you should go with O2 sims, not deleting the codes. The emissions test can detect thrown codes in some cases and O2 sims always work like a charm (with the obvious exception of a visual... but I'm sure you already know this).

 

You cannot legally sell/produce a part like that.

 

You cannot legally run longtube headers in California, but people still use them

 

Well, John Casper is still in alot of legel trouble over the 02 sims.

 

I have had friends have sims fail after a month.
Also known guys that ran them for years without issue.

It should be cheaper to get the codes tuned out anyways. And that is failsafe.

 

Federal Settlement Targets Illegal Emission Control 'Defeat Devices' Sold for Autos
Federal Settlement Targets Illegal Emission Control 'Defeat Devices' Sold for Autos
Company Will Pay Penalties and Recall Devices

WASHINGTON, July 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Department of Justice and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced today a landmark settlement requiring Casper's Electronics, of Mundelein, Ill., to pay a penalty and stop selling devices that allow cars to release excess levels of pollution into the environment, in violation of the Clean Air Act (CAA).

Today's settlement, the first of its kind, requires Casper's to stop selling electronic devices -- known as oxygen sensor simulators or "O2 Sims," -- recall the devices, and pay more than $74,000 in civil penalties to the United States. An O2 Sim tricks an automobile engine's computer into sensing a properly functioning emission control system, even when the catalytic converter is missing or faulty. These "after-market" sensors are considered illegal "defeat devices" under the federal CAA.

Casper's has sold approximately 44,000 defeat devices through retailers and from its Web site since 2001. The EPA estimates that the increased emissions from installation of these devices over the life of the vehicles are 7,400 tons of hydrocarbons, 347,000 tons of carbon monoxide, and 6,000 tons of nitrogen oxides. This is equivalent to the emissions produced by a half- million cars with fully operational emission control systems over their lifetimes.

"Emission control defeat devices, like those used here, risk harming human health and the environment by allowing huge increases in pollutants from motor vehicles," said Ronald J. Tenpas, Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's Environment and Natural Resources Division. "The Justice Department will continue to vigorously enforce all of the provisions of the Clean Air Act -- including its rule against these devices -- against violators, including those using the Internet to illegally sell their wares."

"Reliable and effective automobile pollution control systems are essential to protect human health and the environment from harmful automobile emissions," said Granta Nakayama, the EPA's Assistant Administrator for enforcement and compliance assurance. "Casper's sale of the oxygen sensor simulator defeat devices over a multi-year period is a serious violation because it facilitated the removal or malfunctioning of motor vehicle catalytic converters, which are the primary emission controls devices to prevent excessive pollution from cars and trucks."

An oxygen sensor simulator sends a false electronic signal to the car's engine control computer, preventing the "check engine" or "malfunction indicator" light from illuminating. The malfunction light, part of a vehicle's on-board diagnostic (OBD) system, alerts the driver when there is a problem with the emission control system.

Casper's O2 Sims allowed vehicle owners to remove or disable the catalytic converter without the OBD system detecting the problem and turning on the check engine light. The CAA prohibits the manufacture and sale of any devices, such as Casper's O2 Sims, that bypass or defeat required pollution control equipment on motor vehicles. Cars and trucks with defeat devices can emit up to 50 times the amount of harmful pollution emitted by vehicles with properly functioning emission controls.

The EPA is currently investigating other automobile parts manufacturers and sellers that may also be making and selling similar products. EPA has found that some companies are advertising O2 Sims and other defeat devices as a way to enhance a car's performance. In addition, some companies include in their advertisements a claim that the devices are for "off-road use only," despite clearly marketing the devices for on-road vehicles.

Air emissions from cars include harmful pollutants such as non-methane hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen, key ingredients in the production of ozone, a major component of urban smog. Tailpipe emissions also include carbon monoxide, which impairs breathing. Both ozone and carbon monoxide are especially harmful to children, people with asthma and the elderly.

The recall required by the settlement requires Casper's to implement a mandatory repurchase program under which it must notify its customers that Casper's will buy back any O2 Sims sold by Casper's or its distributors, and create and implement a reporting system to ensure future compliance.

Both the complaint and the consent decree were filed today in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division.

The consent decree is subject to a 30-day public comment period and subsequent court approval, and is available for viewing at the Justice Department Web site http://usdoj.gov/enrd/Consent_Decrees.html.


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Source: U.S. Department of Justice

 

send wait4me a pm he can turn themoff via mail order really cheap....cheaper than the mil eliminators

 

what do u mean turn the codes off ??? how do u do it?? do u need the plug in computer or something how does that work??? and will it pass inspection???

 

yes you hook a computer up to the odbII port adn though software turn them off. ls1edit and hptuners are popular.