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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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i normally try to take it kinda easy on my car and not take it higher than 5000 RPMs but today i was playing around with it today and wound it out to 6 a couple times.. i didn't notice it in first because i was just spinning like crazy but in second and third i noticed when i got around 5200 or 5300 rpms it lost a little power. the car has only 55000 miles on it but i think it still has the stock spark plugs.. does anyone have any idea what would cause this to happen? bad plugs maybe? the car is still all stock except for a K&N air filter which was in it when i bought it.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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if you rarely drive it like that, sometimes it takes a WOT blast or 2 to "clean it out" if you know what i mean.

other possibilities are plugs (as you stated) or fuel starvation. could be a clogged fuel filter or dying fuel pump.

check your fuel pressure

have it tuned...after a tune up.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Maybe your butt dyno just needs recalibrated.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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haha....a loose bearing perhaps....

sorry...couldn't help myself
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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okay i removed the muffler today making room for the b&b i just ordered and i mashed on her again and i could hear it breaking up at about 5500
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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might be running into valve float
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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i think im going to try a new set of plugs first. what kind do y'all recommend?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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You could possibly have some bent pushrods. My car did the same thing..wasnt sure what was going on untill a few weeks later it started ticking. Turned out i bent some pushrods. Put in some hardened ones and it solved my problems.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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plugs...keep it simple

ngk tr55s...gapped to .060"

$2 each

no need for $10/per plug platnum, irridium, gold, titanium or whatever other fancy crap they've concocted.

but while you're working on the car....i still suggest a $10 fuel filter.


find someone with scanning software and see if you're getting KR or misfires.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Its a stock car, it will naturally die off up top like that. Best you can probably do is a basic tuneup. Replace the air/fuel filter, plugs, and run some injector cleaner. Check the plug wires as well.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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sweet thanks guys
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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dumb question but does everyone gap the plugs at 60?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Seafoam her too. Couldn't hurt.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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i bought my new plugs today and got a fuel filter too.. i'll probably just wait until i get my headers before i change them and just do it when i have the manifolds off
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Lately I've seen alot of bad mass air meters which do what you describe.Easy to tell if you scan the 02's.They will go to 0 volts up top.Lean enough to not even hurt the motor.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KMS.1320
might be running into valve float
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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My TA is doing this right now and I suspect mine to be a fuel pump because it starts getting lean towards the 5500-up and my injector duty cycle is 128% at 6400 rpm's and the afr is around the 13.6-13.8 at WOT (which isnt good!!!). I know for a fact I can't be maxxing the injectors out if they have the full 60psi of fuel pressure but I think in the upper RPM's my pump is crapping out on me and dropping fuel pressure. So a new Walbro will be going in the car within the week and then retuned. BTW, stock F-body fuel pumps are junk!
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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i can add another to the fuel filter/injector cleaner.... a while back my car would die off at about 4000 rpm's and was just a turd. the car had about 120k on it and i noticed that the fuel filter had never been freplaced. i went to advance auto purchased some gumout injector and valve cleaner and replaced the fuel filter.

let her sit ideling for about 10 mins. let took her for a spin and WOT, i could actually feel her waking up again. it was def a kick in the *** for the car.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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nice! i'm kinda partial to lucas fuel treatment so i might try that when i put the new filter on. How bad are the fuel pumps to replace?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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hahah


unless you cut a hole in the rear floor of the car....you have to drop the rear axle and then drop the entire tank.

not easy from a logistics standpoint...but not really mechanically difficult.
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